Subject: eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen |
Bible Note: Hi Hobbs! I honestly don't understand your question. Faith is indeed a gift as it is specifically listed as one. And we can refuse a gift if we choose to. This to me is an axiom. Were is doctrine needed? unless one wishes to debate philosophically, like the theorem that motion is impossible mathematically, if you divide your journey by half the calculations go to infinity. But, we know it is not so because we can see motion. We are chosen/elected for sure but we can refuse God. another problem that election cannot clear up is that God has made it clear, that His will is that none should parish, election theorem has not cleared this up sufficiently for me. How and why this works I don't know and I don't think that they know ether. So this is why it is sufficient for me, for now, to pursue other teaching that the bible has to offer. Such as apologetics i.e. how can I explain to the lost world why I believe what I believe, this will help me with what I believe should be our prime objective. i.e. Spread the Gospel to the lost sinners of the world. Here are some verses. Prov 1:29 Because they hated knowledge And did not choose the fear of the LORD. Is 7:16 "For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken. Is 7:15 "He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. God bless. John |