Subject: The Father, The Son, The Holy Ghost. |
Bible Note: The word trinity, which isn't even in the bible and doesn't really matter what it means, actually originally meant there were 3 separate entities. Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. These 3 were coequal in power and unified in purpose. Which is not what you are saying. Over time this word has lost some meaning and many people and church use it. It has really two meanings now. That which you state and the older original meaning. Again it doesn't matter what the word means as it's not even in the Bible. You say the Father God couldn't be greater than Jesus the man... JN. 14:28 "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." I believe that Jesus was the "form" of God but since God in his fulness and is a spirit he has no form right? He took on a form, which was Jesus and though he was merely a man it allowed God to receive glory through this form. In truth God had no form as he is a spirit. in your statement ...He was God before He became human and He still is God. (here you are saying that Jesus is God, which I agree) You are confusing Him with the Father. (How can you confuse him with the Father when they are both the same... God) He came to proclaim the Father as God, just as the Holy Spirit proclaims Him as God. .....or are you saying they aren't the same, God. I am saying that God in the form of Jesus, was limited while he walked the earth by the weakness of man. Although he was "God" he was also completely a man. God cannot be tempted, yet Jesus was. God cannot hunger, yet Jesus did. God doesn't get weak, yet Jesus did. Does this mean the bible is contradictory? No it just simply means there is a relationship her that is hard to comprehend. Jesus was merely a man who was all that God could show in the flesh. So being everything God was in the form of man, made him the image of who God is. The spirit or sould was without measure in him alone, so God himself lived in this man. It will be in the last day when Jesus finally puts all things under his feet that he will submit unto the Father (which represents God in his fulness) and at that time it will be known that it was God in all. Until that time God has to remain as Jesus the mediator of mankind. But when all is finished that role will no longer be needed so Jesus will be glorified and sit on the throne. Well anyhow, I appreciate your comments, but I feel this conversation isn't going to go anywhere so God bless and may God reveal to both us a clearer revelation of him, his grace, and the word. Casey |