Subject: Raven, do you want ALL the Law? |
Bible Note: You wrote: "Then God is a sinner just like man then. If reduce God to literally dwelling,that is living inside your body, then you have to associate God as being a partaker of sin. And thats just not scriptural I don't care how you look at it." Saying that God dwells in us is not the same as saying God IS us. But Paul does address the implications of us sinning as Spirit-indwelt believers: 'Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be! Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH." But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.' --1 Corinthians 6:15-20 Paul's whole point here is to ask how anyone could live immorally as a believer, since the Holy Spirit does indeed dwell in us. Paul compares our union with Christ, being one spirit with Him, in the same terms that he uses for the sexual intercourse between a person and a prostitute, where two beings are distinct, and yet united. Paul's line of reasoning here does not make any sense at all if we are NOT indwelt by the Spirit. You wrote: 'Jesus Christ was totally human. He was also totally God. He was fully human as we are and yet He was deity. And you say that it is possible to have part of the Godhead inside our mortal bodies?' It seems that the example you have given here is the prime example of how deity and humanity can co-exist in the same person. Now I am not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not me, but the Spirit can and does indwell the believer while remaining distinct from him. You wrote: 'This is mans way of saying if "I" do something wrong, if "I" sin then thats ok its no big deal because the Holy Spirit is in "me" and "I'm" once saved always saved and everything is alright and so "I'm" going to keep on doing what "I" want to do!!' That does not logically follow from the Spirit's indwelling. I believe the Bible when it says the Spirit indwells the believer; however, I am not an antinomian. The person with a consistent attitude like the one you mention above is demonstrating that he most likely does NOT have the Holy Spirit living in Him (i.e. not a true Christian). You wrote: 'Haven't you ever heard someone say, "He's got his daddy in him" or "she's got her mother in her". Well we know the are not really inside one another, but its their attributes that make them seem just like each other. And that is what God wants and has said.' No, that is not what is meant by the list of verses I cited before. The "attributes of God" do not dwell in the believer. The SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in the believer. To take a distinctly American colloquial expression like "He's got his daddy in her" and to apply it to the verses of Scripture is quite a reach, and makes no sense in the context of all those verses. --Joe! |