Bible Question:
Dearest Brother, Could you please explain to me what Hebrews5:-9 means to you? (Though he were a Son yet he learned obedience by the things which he suffered, And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him. 1st- You can't teach GOD obedience,2nd- You can't make GOD suffer. The scripture say's "being made perfect, he became" (not always was)If we read Hebrews2:7-10 it back's up what I am saying "made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death" "to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings" You can not make GOD suffer. I am not trying to take nothing away from GOD or Jesus(but there is a father and a son)it's just awesome the possibilites of a man with GOD are endless. If we read the 2nd Chapter of Acts we find that Jesus was a man approved of GOD(remember "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased"Matthew17:5)It also talks about how GOD raised Jesus up(once again that's two)And to top it off it says "that GOD hath made that same Jesus"(GOD made Jesus). Now, back to Jesus being a man born with the same type of flesh as you and I (refer to 1Cornithians15:39 one kind of flesh of men) now no one wants to see this because it means you will have to measure up to the man Jesus. We can be just like Jesus if we allow GOD to take up his abode in us as Jesus did. And, come to the realization that we can be made perfect too if if we allow GOD to lead and guide us in everything. Read Matthew5:48 " Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.(In my bible this is in red print, Jesus very words telling me to be perfect).Looking at your reference to to Colossians2:9 let us read this again starting at vs.1 paying particular attention to vs.2,3,8 and then 9. In reference to your comment about being a "false teacher", this is not something you want to get into a habit of doing. Unless, GOD tell's you a certain individual is a "false teacher" , and I know GOD did not tell you that did he? You did ask him didn't you? You might want to read Hebrews13:2(GOD taught me along time ago you have to be careful of what you say). Proverbs21:23 Don't be so quick to judge the words I speak. I speak these words, I speak because I see Jesus and know the truth! Show me where in the scripture where it says Jesus was GOD and I'll stop speaking like this. But, I invite you to search the scriptures(in them are life, Jesus said I give you life more abundantly) in several places in the bible it tells us Jesus was a man. Grace be with you my brothers, Bro. Tom |
Bible Answer: Hebrews5:-9 1) In the first place I have no idea what you mean when you refer to "Hebrews5:-9". Tell us plainly what "Hebrews5:-9" means, what chapter and verse it refers to. "What does it mean to you" or me? That has nothing to do with anything. What does it mean period. That is the question. "Show me where in the scripture where it says Jesus was GOD and I'll stop speaking like this." No. You made the assertion. It's not up to us to refute it. YOU show us in Scripture where it plainly says, means or teaches that Jesus was NOT God. By the way, we know what the Bible means by what it says. What do you mean "Unless, GOD tell's you a certain individual is a "false teacher." Today God "tells" us things, he speaks to us, through His Word. His Word clearly shows us how to identify a false teacher (see the book of 1 John). Therefore we don't have to wait for some special direct revelation from God before we can identify a false teacher. You write: "I speak because I see Jesus and know the truth!" If the Jesus you see was not God from the beginning, then you see "another Jesus and another gospel." You are not seeing the Jesus of the Word of God. If you don't know that Jesus was and is and always shall remain God, then you do NOT know the truth. I say again: to deny the Deity of Christ is HERESY. Teaching heresy makes one a "false teacher." I invite you to search the Scriptures and let the Holy Spirit illuminate them for you. And while you're searching them remember: Christ gave teachers to the church for the building up of the church. Internet Lone Ranger self-appointed Bible experts are of little or no value in contributing anything which would build up the church. |