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NASB | Joshua 10:12 ¶ Then Joshua spoke to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, "O sun, stand still at Gibeon, And O moon in the valley of Aijalon." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Joshua 10:12 ¶ Then Joshua spoke to the LORD on the day when the LORD handed over the Amorites to the sons of Israel, and Joshua said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, And moon, in the Valley of Aijalon." |
Bible Question:
Nolan: Thanks for your comments. In this forum some have used the expression sola scriptura (Scripture only), which I accept. If Scripture, God's word, is our only source of truth, then what can be proven true by science, and mathematics? Then too, can science or math prove ANY biblical statement true or false? With respect to our present discussion in Joshua, what obligates us to believe that the earth spends and then deny that the sun and moon stood still? Unless it can be shown by sound methods of interpretation that the phrase is figurative, we have to accept it as literal. So far, the only reason given to take it as figurative is NOT based on a study of Scripture, but by imposing a belief on the Scripture, a belief whose source is not the Bible, but science. How do you know Jesus loves you? But how do you know the earth spins on its axis? Yours in Him whoes word is the embodiment of knowledge and of the truth (Rom 2:20) Lionstrong |
Bible Answer: Lionstrong:Science depends upon observation and replication. Miracles, such as the Incarnation and Resurrection, are by their very nature unprecedented events. This also is the case for the events for Joshua 10:12. No one can replicate these events in a laboratory. Hence, science simply cannot be the judge and jury as to whether or not these events occurred. This is what I have stated before to you: That we must accept this story upon the basis of faith. Since the events of Joshua 10:12 occurred in the Bible, then we can (and should) accept that as truth just because it is in the Bible. The Bible contains the ultimate truth. The scientific method is useful for studying nature but not super-nature. Just as football stars are speaking outside their field of expertise when they appear on television to tell you what razor you should buy, so scientists are speaking outside their field when they address theological issues like miracles or the Resurrection or occurrences like Joshua 10:12. I believe that nature and Scripture, properly interpreted, do not conflict. God has communicated to humankind both by general revelation (nature, or the observable universe) and special revelation (the Bible). Since both of these revelations come from God- and since God does not contradict Himself- we must conclude that these two revelations are in agreement with each other. While there may be conflicts between one's interpretation of the observable universe and one's interpretation of the Bible, there is no ultimate contradiction. We can and should believe the revelations that have been given to us by science! Since these have been proven physically, mathematically or acheologically, we should believe the findings that have been revealed to us, as long as these findings coincide with the 'special revelation' which is the Bible. God's Word does not change and neither does the Lord Jesus Christ change. However, science is in a constant state of change. Therefore, what we believe in science should affirm or coincide with the Bible. If what we discover in science does not coincide with the Bible (or help to affirm the Bible), then we must retract our scientific findings and realize the error of our findings (example: evolution). If we do not affirm these findings with Scripture, then we begin to go off onto all kinds of wayward tangents (ex. evolution, billion year old earth, etc..)Lionstrong, by reading my above answer, you can discern that I also believe that the Bible teaches 'sola scriptura'- that is, that Scripture alone is the supreme and infallible authority for the church and the individual believer. This is not to say that creeds, tradition, or science is unimportant, but the Bible alone is our final authority. Creeds, science, and traditions are man made. Jesus said, "Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35). He also used Scripture as the final court of appeal in every matter under dispute (Matt. 5:18, Luke 16:17, Mark 7:13, Matt. 22:29, Matt. 4:4-10). So, following Jesus' lead, the Scriptures alone are our supreme and final authority.I also appreciate your input to the question of Joshua 10:12 even though I am beginning to wonder what you are trying to 'prove' by continuing to question why I believe in science as general revelation given to us by God. I sincerely question your motivation for writing such a sentence as "how do you know that Jesus loves you".. This leads me to believe that either you are not a Christian or a skeptical one at best. I know that Jesus loves me because the Bible says so. And I also know because of what Jesus has done with me and shown me in my lifetime already as I daily walk with Him! If you indeed need to either strengthen your faith or to accept Christ as your Savior, then I would suggest that you would do so! It is the greatest thing that you could ever do- is to accept Jesus into your heart and to begin to follow Him in all the areas of your life. |