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Subject: do u tithe on unemployment checks |
Bible Note: Val, 1. The book of Hebrews does not specifically say, "The law was abolished." In fact, if you do a search with a simple tool, you will find that the absolutely only time these two words are used in a verse together within the entire New Testament is in Matthew 5:17. I do not deny that Hebrew has a passage in particular which if read a certain way would amount to such a statement. But say those words "specifically" it most certainly does not. I'm thinking of Hebrews 7:12. But I would agree with John Gill when he says that this is not referring to the moral law but the systems of sacrifices. I think the context supports this. 2. "It was for Israel" If tithing was specifically instituted at mount sinai as a pact with Israel and ended with Christ, then why did Abraham tithe? 3. "We just have different perspectives" "Let us agree to disagree" The entire point of my post which you first responded to, was to help people understand what presuppositions causes the multitude of answers on the question of tithing. I was attempting to do this as a service because I worried about young christians seeing a simple question getting such wildly different answers. The way one answers the question of tithing is based on how one answers the question of the law's role with a Christian. You yourself are proving that your answer is based on this. What I wanted, was to present the question of the law clearly and let readers think through that so they could understand and formulate their own opinion on the tithe as it pertains to Christians. If you want us to agree to disagree, then let it lay there, with us letting people disagree on the role of the law in Christianity. That is where the disagreement is, not on tithes. The stances on tithes is merely a symptom of ones stance on the law. 4. "The other subjects you mentioned would be covered in their own topics." I am only discussing two topics, law and tithing. And both of these you once again made authority like statements on without quoting any scripture whatsoever. In conclusion, I do not mind letting us agree to disagree, or even letting the discussion end. But what we are discussing is a question that great minds have written many many pages on in the past. All I am attempting to do is give people a chance to think through these theological issues which shape our views on many things such as tithes. If you wish to discuss it with me, I very much welcome your careful presentation of your view from scripture. But if you have no interest in doing that, and just want to agree to disagree, I am happy to go along with that also. But please choose. Either articulate your position from scripture, or disagree silently. But don't just make decisive statements regarding the law over issues that have been debated for centuries as if you can declare the issue clear and closed, and that without quoting scripture. If you wish to look further into this via a book, I highly reccommend Edward Fisher's Marrow of Modern Divinity. Its a good place to start. In Christ, Beja |