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NASB | Colossians 1:13 For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Colossians 1:13 For He has rescued us and has drawn us to Himself from the dominion of darkness, and has transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, |
Subject: once saved, always saved? |
Bible Note: Joe Many people are taught many things through mistakes they have made. That does not mean you can undo the mistake that has been committed. It also may be possible that they were being taught a lesson, just like Ananias and his wife Sapphira were being taught so that others may fear and not make the same mistake. So as I see it Paul was not trying to say it was possible for Hymenaeus and Alexander to be renewed to repentance a second time, (Heb. 6:4-6) any more that it would be likely for the deaths of Ananias and Sapphira to be undone. Either way those are my assumptions vs. your assumptions about the text in question since the text does not specifically say what either of us has implied thus far. Based on that the imagery of a shipwreck and what it depicts about being completely and finally lost and ruined in the depths is a more likely senario that seems at least to me to agree with 1 Tim. 1:18-20 I do however appreciate and respect your opinions on this topic. Check out the following rendering of the text in this debate. It might give us another clue to the meaning or at least some fuel for more discussion. 1 Timothy 1 18 My son Timothy, here is what I tell you to do. And it is what the prophets said about you before. Remember their words, and fight like a good soldier. 19 Keep on believing. Do only what you know is right. Some people have not done that and they have stopped believing. 20 Hymenaeus and Alexander are among them. I have given them to Satan so that they will be punished and learn not to teach things that do not respect God. (Worldwide English New Testament) God Bless New Creature |