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NASB | Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him [believing and relying on Him], not having any righteousness of my own derived from [my obedience to] the Law and its rituals, but [possessing] that [genuine righteousness] which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith. |
Subject: Is the sin nature a substance or mindset |
Bible Note: Hello Ken, #1 [What he did say is that we came OUT OF IT. Read it again for the first time then use honesty in your reply.] To say we came out of a divine nature would require a vestige of that divine nature to be in each of us, thereby making us already gods in a certain respect and worthy of worship, glory, and praise. This is not the case. We are created beings (Gen 1:27) with no divine nature or tie to a divine nature beyond the Holy Spirit indwelling us when we believe. #2. [The everlasting Father of it! Jesus is the pioneer of our becoming a son; Father of it! Right? ] Wrong. Again Jesus is not the Father of it. He is the Author and Perfecter as you have stated. There is no Scripture saying He is the Father of sonship. Only God the Father can be that father. As for Jesus being the vehicle of sonship (i.e. the one through whom we receive sonship), I already gave John 1:12. I would also add Eph 1:5. #3. If I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying that Jesus is the Son only because of His finished earthly work. And that God, foreseeing that completed earthly work, was willing to say Jesus was His son. Again the answer is no. The Son was given to mankind. He was always the Son as His relation in the Triunity of the Godhead. (Romans 8:3; Galatians 4:4-6; 1 John 4:9-14) #4. You are confusing the work of sanctification (which is a learning process) with our adoption as sons (which is already accomplished--Romans 8:15; Galatians 3:26; Ephesians 1:5). [Geo.McDonald was one of the mentors of Oswald Chambers and C.S.Lewis... Geo.McDonald knew God.] Like I said in another posting to you: I don't like Chambers, and Lewis had bad theology. Steve |