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NASB | Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him [believing and relying on Him], not having any righteousness of my own derived from [my obedience to] the Law and its rituals, but [possessing] that [genuine righteousness] which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith. |
Subject: ?self effort 2 B holy now vs befor saved |
Bible Note: [So grace is something we conjure up, now?] Absolutely, according to the way you explain it and the verses of scripture you use that don't support you. "Isaiah" mention that there is none righteous has to do with a very specific time in Israel's history having to with their rebelliousness [which is as the sin of witchcraft; no righteousness here. No, not one was.]" [So Paul lived long after Isaiah. What did he mean when he said "No one is righteous."?] None that can stand before God in his own righteousness because it isn't sufficient for that but his righteous deeds will be judged. Correct, so far? So we seek to be "blameless" in this life while enjoying the benefits of the righteousness of Christ that "justify" us and permit us to enter into His kingdom for "Sanctification"...Now......if we choose, that is....It's also called "abiding". "But she said she is saved. Now what self effort needs be expended on her part that is different from the time she wasn't saved. I think I'm reading her correctly and that is what she is asking." [Tell ya what: why don't we let her answer for herself? A novel concept, to be sure, but let's try it and see what happens...] I thought she wrote quite well, her position. "Empowers us to fight?" [I know that quoting extensive Scriptures will probably do no good here, since the cement in your mind has already set, but here goes:] OK [Fight the good fight of faith; take hold of the eternal life to which you were called, and you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses. --1 Timothy 6:12] Self-effort, perhaps? [I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith --2 Timothy 4:12] More self-effort? [So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh--for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. --Romans 8:12-13] You're getting warm [Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul. --1 Peter 2:11] Self-effort, I'm afraid. Paul said aliens. What do you think that means? [For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh, for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. --2 Corinthians 10:4] Whose "we"? Sounds here that we don't war except from a Spiritual power that is not our own. Do you think it could be Christ in us that fights against what fights aginst Him? Could it be that we are to live with that "Hope" as a "lively stone built together in Him" while not giving in to fleshly cravings and thus overcome that which would rob us of His [that] relationship? [Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. --Philippians 3:13-14] I,I,I. Seems Paul saw a responsibility here that He commited himself to. [But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts. --Romans 13:14] Ah...Now you're HOT! Read that verse again for the first time. [Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel --Philippians 1:27] [For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power, which mightily works within me. --Colossians 1:29] His power...from Himself and not from me therefore it is ALL Him and not just one of His "Graces" that elude and frustrate when attempt to be appropriated from "SELF-AWARENESS. [Fighting, warfare, striving, pressing on; all of these WE are commanded to do by the power that comes from the Spirit of Christ. Need more?] I am about to ask you that. |