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NASB | Ephesians 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 5:18 Do not get drunk with wine, for that is wickedness (corruption, stupidity), but be filled with the [Holy] Spirit and constantly guided by Him. [Prov 23:20] |
Subject: Filled by the holy spirit? |
Bible Note: Hi Morant61, Some of my thoughts can be gotten from Numbers 3554, 15992, 16080, 33761, or 33601 where we spoke with Tim Cormier, the Tennesee Preacher as you may recall. I might start there again to state my position for I have yet again this evening struggled with John 7:38. In fact "Ray John 7:38" will bring up the numbers stated above. Computers are amazing but scary because our thoughts change in the passage of time and the learning of new things. We had spoken earlier about the antecedent for "From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water." With that in mind would you consider this rendering, for what it is worth, for the passage? John 7:38, "Now on the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in (Me), as the Scripture said, 'From His innermost being shall flow rivers of living water.'" v39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified." In my interpretation of these verses here by my capitalization, I have presented the Spirit and the holy spirit. There is the Person of the Spirit in whom we believe, and ALSO the gift of the holy spirit represented by the living water. The verses have both the Giver and the gift. Holy Spirit and holy spirit. Why do I believe that we need both here? Verse 39 says of verse 38 that the Spirit was spoken of. As Tim Cormier had said earlier in our discussions, the "Source" had been spoken of in verse 38. From "His" innermost being" came this gift of living water. For we believe in (Him) and He had not yet given holy spirit. I'll stop here and let you respond. Could you also give me your personal rendering for the Greek in John 7:40,41. Also verse 35? From the heart, Ray |