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NASB | Ephesians 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ephesians 1:13 In Him, you also, when you heard the word of truth, the good news of your salvation, and [as a result] believed in Him, were stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit [the One promised by Christ] as owned and protected [by God]. [John 7:39; Acts 2:33] |
Bible Question:
Dear Forum Members, I have been pondering something lately, please forgive me if I seem to be bringing up something old and please bear with me. I myself have posted several things about false doctrine in here, perhaps even about one or more of these beliefs below, but the good testimonies of some people are leaving me in doubt as to whether they are just mistaken about the process. Do you think that these constitue false doctrine and what scriptures would you give to support that? I know of a few things to support what I believe already, but I am thinking about those scriptures which might shed some light on what the apostles considered to be false doctrine? I have been pondering whether or not certain teachings about Jesus plus within the process of salvation are merely mistaken views about the process or whether they are to be considered false doctrines. I have friends and family members who believe in these Jesus plus concepts about the process of salvation and some of them have been Christians for a very long time and seem to be bearing good fruit. Here are some of the views, I am leaving out the other major 4 Jesus plus beliefs because there is so much about them that is obvious false doctrine that there is no doubt in my mind; Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus it is not completed until baptism, living a sinless life until death and staying in scripture study to keep the Holy Spirit working inside. Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus it is not completed until baptism. Salvation comes by repenting of sins and believing in Jesus, plus tarrying at the altar to get tongues as evidence of having received the Holy Spirit as the sign of salvation. God's Day To You, Tamara |
Bible Answer: Good morning Tam, Glad to see someone else up at this hour!! Question: Do you believe that salvation is the same for all involved? At any given time? Including the saints of old, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, etc? If so, then those 3 senarios must prove false. Those men (and unnamed ladies) never received baptism as prescribed in the gospels or letters. They partook of cleansing, purification rituals but the two rituals are a bit different and performed for different reasons. Also, because churches now, most often, have classes people attend prior to baptism, you have to think about the ones who get saved and then must wait a week, a month, or more before baptism - what about if they have a fatal accident before baptism? I believe they are as saved as you and I. As far as your friends bearing good fruit, that would be expected because they are true believers. If they got baptized thinking that was a part of their salvation "requirements", it wouldn't annul the part that truly was required, i.e., repent and believe. Repent and believe in the Lord. That and that alone is what saves. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else. Just my 2cents worth :-) Shalom Cheri |