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NASB | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 9:25 Now every athlete who [goes into training and] competes in the games is disciplined and exercises self-control in all things. They do it to win a crown that withers, but we [do it to receive] an imperishable [crown that cannot wither]. |
Subject: Self control and Spirit controlled? |
Bible Note: Greetings again Raven! You stated: "Nobody can prove being controlled by the Holy Spirit. But we have the written word to help mold us an shape us into a form which God will accept us." WHERE is your Biblical support for these statements? Reformer Joe observed that we CAN know that one is controlled by the Holy Spirit with the following: "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits."' --Matthew 7:16-20 "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." --Galatians 5:16-23 "So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh--for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live." --Romans 8:12-13 John Reformed adds: "Rom 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. I do not believe that the Holy Spirit violates our wills. I do think that there is a kind of synergism between the Soverignty of God and the free will of the christian. Please don't ask me to explain how this works! I only know that the bible indicates such a relationship. For instance. It is God's will that I pray for my enemies. This command goes against the desire of my flesh. Nevertheless I must obey God. How can I pray for those I hate and still offer a prayer that is more than lip service? Only the Spirit Himself, dwelling within me, can make such a prayer pleasing to God. Perhaps as I bend my knee before Him I will be reminded of the man I once was. This painfull reminder may serve to humble me and cause thanksgiving to well up in my breast. Now I am ready to pray from the heart for my enemy. This is where it really gets tricky. I have just performed a good work by praying for my enemy. I realize it was the grace of God that enabled me to be obedient and that it was the work of the Spirit in my heart that caused me to offer a spiritual prayer...but the bible also says: Eph 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. So it was part of His eternal purpose that I would offer this prayer. He had pre-ordained it before the foundation of the world. Yet I did it freely!" End of John Reformed's post. I (Mommapbs) suggest that we can know by the result of His indwelling in the manifestation of the His gifts. "But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good." 1 Cor 12:7 The passage in Matthew 7:15-23 also suggests that we should be aware of "counterfeit gifts." 1 John 4:1 commands us to be discerning and "test the spirits"! We CAN KNOW the difference! The entire fourth chapter has many key points for us to consider - I hope you will ponder these at some point. I'll address your second statement in my next post as I am running out of room. Mommapbs |