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NASB | Romans 9:13 Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 9:13 As it is written and forever remains written, "JACOB I LOVED (chose, protected, blessed), BUT ESAU I HATED (held in disregard compared to Jacob)." [Mal 1:2, 3] |
Subject: explain the doctrine of predistination |
Bible Note: Hello DocTrinsograce, You wrote: Howard Marshall wrote, "To avoid all misconceptions it should be made clear at the outset that the fact that God wishes or wills that all people should be saved does not necessarily imply that all will respond to the gospel and be saved. We must certainly distinguish between what God would like to see happen and what He actually does will to happen, and both of these things can be spoken of as God's will." I'm sorry, but it is hard to follow your posts as to when you do or do not agree with the many quotes you offer. Regarding the one that I have copied and pasted here, Do you agree with the statement by Marshall? If you do, then I believe you very much agree with Mr. Moran. Every person is in need of God gracious gift of salvation. Salvation is offered to every person (every as in all, as in no single one not included). Some will reject that gift. Some will accept and receive that gift. There is no work involved. Howard Marshall's quote very specifically articulates exactly what Mr. Moran has been saying (correct me Mr. Moran if I am wrong in my understanding of you). Let's not rewrite the statements of others on the forum using our own language to misrepresent what they have already clearly said and by doing accuse them of false teaching. This is unbecoming behavior. In Him, DocTheo |