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NASB | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 5:12 ¶ Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, so death spread to all people [no one being able to stop it or escape its power], because they all sinned. |
Bible Question:
[quote from Robert] Have you considered the post from brother Tim Moran last Friday? Quote ""This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." So, evil did not have to be created, nor did it have to exist prior to creation. It simply was a natural result of the creation of beings with a will. Once the possiblity existed for Adam and Eve to disobey God, evil resulted. " (End of quote thanks to Tim Moran) Zero, re- "the knowledge of good and evil" Knowledge refers to the ability of a person to know the difference. Adam and Eve after receiving the knowledge of good and evil due to their act of disobedience experienced the feeling shame for the first time. I cannot except the idea of evil before creation. We are not given very much information about before creation, except that God had looked down through the ages and had purposed to redeem lost sinners through Christ "before the world began" Eph. 1:4 In Strong's concordance "evil" Strong's #07451 transliterated "Ra" is an adjective which would support the idea that we have evil actions as seen in disobedience and good actions as seen in obedience to God. Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him. "In the beginning God (Elohim) Gen. 1:1 If try to look into the dateless past we find "Elohim" who was, who is and who will be, forever, for he is eternal. Peace in his name Robert **************End Quote************ "This is a tough question. My short answer would be this: Evil is not a thing that can be created. Rather, evil is the choice to disobey God's law. Evil is a natural possibility where choices are really available." [Gen. 2:16-17]"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [ver.17] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Clearly "GOOD" and "EVIL" exist and they exist only together. And they existed prior to creation. The choice is not a tree of "GOOD" *or* a tree of "EVIL", it's a tree of "GOOD and EVIL". "Since God is the standard, everything else is measured relative to him." Here is a "ZERO" theory summary: Everything, with the exception of "0", has an opposite that neutralizes the other and brings the two back to "0"(the "STANDARD"). Example:(positive-negative)(black-white)(night-day)(before-after)(up-down)(-2....2)(GOOD-EVIL). The twist is that they are both dependant upon each other for their very own existence, you can't have one without the other or they will both cease to exist. They both cease to exist because if you had just all "GOOD" then it wouldn't be "good" anymore it would be "STANDARD" and it can't be "STANDARD" because only "0" is "STANDARD". Can you see why I need to know where "evil" came from? Did God create "evil"? |
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