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NASB | Romans 4:6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Romans 4:6 And in this same way David speaks of the blessing on the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: |
Subject: Imputed Righteousness |
Bible Note: You wrote: "Phil 3:12 - You SERIOUSLY need to look at the context of this verse, bro. Paul is NOT talking about righteousness here, he is talking about physical resurrection - see vs 11,12." SERIOUSLY? ;) Let's look then: "More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." --Philippians 3:8-14 Hm...seems that righteousness is in view here. If Paul is describing our physical resurrection as "beoming perfect," how in the world is his striving and "pressing on" here on earth going to help him be resurrected? Will it bring Jesus sooner? Will it make him "more resurrected?" The resurrection of our bodies at the end of the age is not something that we work for, that we press on for. It is quite clear that the pressing on in this life is to become more perfect (as we see the goal is throughout the Scriptures for this life). This is not done apart from God, but we have not arrived yet at the inherent righteousness you want to attribute to us. Paul's words in Philippians 3 make absolutely no sense otherwise. You wrote: "According to 1 Thess 5:23, God sanctifies us 1) in spirit 2) in soul and 3) in body. Our spirit is ALREADY sanctified. Our soul is being sanctified and our body will one day be (not this one but) a sanctified one." Let's see: "Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." --1 Thessalonians 5:23 This verse does not say that our spirits have been entirely sanctified! Now you are just making stuff up. The fact is that your view (1) is contrary to Scripture and has been soundly refuted in church history; (2) makes progressive sanctification meaningless, because we are "already righteous"; and (3) really, really minimizes what true righteousness is (what Christ alone has inherently possessed), which is always in harmony with one's beliefs, attitudes, and actions. You are not proclaiming the truth; you are assuming you are right, and demonstrating that you are quite unteachable. --Joe! |