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Subject: Imputed Righteousness |
Bible Note: To Joe - Part 2 The fact is, as Luther adequately pointed out, is that we AREN'T righteous in practice. I agree. We are not always righteous in practice. But it is not practice (label this works) that makes us righteous in the first place. It is received as a gift - here and now. Justification doesn't make us righteous in ourselves any more than the atonement made Jesus a sinner. Then, by this same logic, Adam's sin did not make you a sinner either did it? Romans 5:19 refutes this. Adam's sin caused all to be made sinners. As soon as you are born "in Adam", you are a sinner. You exhibit the nature of whoever you are born to. We, as believers, are no longer in Adam, we have been born again of and to God. So we take on the nature of Christ - see 2 Pet 1:4. Jesus earned our righteousness for us, but making us more righteous is a process called sanctification, and that starts at our conversion and continues until we join the Lord. Are you listening to yourself here? You say that Jesus earned our righteousness but then we also have to earn is for ourselves here on earth. If it comes from you, Joe, that it is as filthy rags in His sight. It must come from God. This is the truth that fan the flames of the reformation - that righteousness comes FROM God TO man, not vice versa. It is His righteousness that we now possess in our new spirit, not our own. We are indeed re-created, but you fail to show from Scripture how our new natures are as righteous and as holy as Christ. Yes I did - Eph 4:24. What part of you has been recreated, Joe? What part of you has been born-again? Nowhere does Scripture tell us that our new natures are perfect ones. Not true, Joe. 2 Pet 1:4, Eph 4:24. Jesus Christ is our righteousness and the continuous source of the fruit of righteousness, Amen! And our new self is created in His likeness and indwelt by Him! "By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother." --1 John 3:10 Amen! Jesus in us works through us to perform the righteous acts for which were we recreated! - Eph 2:10. Your new spirit DOES NOT make you want to sin so that you can blame it on the flesh. That is the view of a babe in Christ who does not know the Christ is in him. Christ is us changes our WANT TO. I no longer WANT TO do what I used to do. That doesn't mean that I am sinless in action or thought. But I am no longer a sinner. I am a saint because God has made me so. Romans 5:17 - For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ. This verse says it all. We have received the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness. Christ reigns in life through us! Thanks for your interaction. Keep growing in grace, ChristLifer2001 |