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NASB | Acts 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. |
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Subject: R, Can you Biblically justify actions? |
Bible Note: (continued) EdB, You further stated: 6. "I too believe Adam and Eve had a valid marriage. I also think if they had lived in the United States they would have also obtained a marriage license. Again God’s criteria has been expressed here by me and others. In it God states his requirements for marriage which you can meet without a marriage license. However God also stipulates we adhere to the laws of the land as long as they do not require us to violate God’s law. With that in mind, every state requires a marriage license to be obtained before a wedding ceremony can legally be performed." This last statement is accurate. The problem is that when the laws of the land incur bodily injury to the medically-handicapped, the spirit of the law is then abandoned. For this reason, I must fall back upon the scripture, which I view to be higher than the laws of the land. And we see countless instances in scripture when the saints break the laws of the land directly in the New Testament, and whole legal systems are condemned of God in the Old Testament. I believe that you have used Romans 13:1-7 as an illegitimate basis to turn the laws of the land into a religion. If you wish to appeal to law as the basis of your religious beliefs, then why not turn to the Old Testament Law of Moses, which was directly administered through angels? Why do you instead appeal to the extra-biblical laws of man? 7. "I offered the scenarios to point out that there were legal issues that are effected by marriage. Whether you like it or not that is a fact. If you believe you can live around those issues fine. However as many homosexuals are learning there are things you can’t that is why they are fighting so hard to redefine marriage." I'm stuck with that one. I have no power there. 8. "God’s word says don’t let you good be spoken evil of Romans 14:16. Most consider it wrong to intentionally circumvent a law or situation. The laws says if your married, your benefits will cease, right or wrong that is what you claim the law says. For you to be consider yourself married and still collect those benefits puts you outside the law. While you and I may consider that law very unfair and thus wrong it remains the law. Until that law is changed and you consider yourself married in any form and you still collect your benefits your breaking that law. What else can anyone say?" So what does the Law of Moses say? You've again elevated the laws of the land above the Old Testament scriptures. If you appeal to the law to make your religious case, why not appeal to God's law as ordained in scripture, rather than appealing to the secular laws of man? 9. "Reighnskye please don’t get back to me. We both know what is right and what is wrong. We both know the answer to your question. Yes the situation as you stated it is unfair, the whole thing stinks, and the law needs to be changed. However we both know that if you live as man and wife you and consider yourself man and wife by whatever means you justify it, then your man and wife and the law says if your married you no longer qualify for disability benefits." You seem to be under a falsified impression that if you believe a certain way regarding law and morality, that others must also. But again, you shy away from using a strictly biblical basis, and conversely resort to an appeal to secular authority to make your religious claims. Rather than present to me your secularly-based definition of marriage, why not present what the bible says instead? The bible does indeed address the legalities of marriage, beyond what you are professing here. - And for the record, I will still get back to you with the verse references that you provided, as this forum is moreso intentioned for biblical discussion as opposed to secular discussion. Again, you need not respond, if you don't wish to. Just please don't find it amiss if someone doesn't interpret the scripture the same way that you do, or if they don't rely upon the secular state over the Law of Moses for the definition of marriage. - Genesis 2 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. (NAS95) - Blessings, Reighnskye |