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NASB | Acts 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Acts 20:28 "Take care and be on guard for yourselves and for the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you as overseers, to shepherd (tend, feed, guide) the church of God which He bought with His own blood. |
Subject: R, Can you Biblically justify actions? |
Bible Note: EdB, I will respond to you by point. If you don't wish to respond to me, that's fine. I'll leave that up to you. If you do respond to me, however, as you have done here, I will be sure to respond back. If you do not respond, then I will not respond back. Fair enough? - 1. "Any body that marries homosexuals is not a church. they may call themselves that but I assure you there are not." I'm not quite sure what you are considering to be a church here. The government recognizes many non-Christian organizations as being churches, even granting them not-for-profit status, based on their pursuit of collective worship. If we shall define what marriage is simply by what the secular state says, should we not also define a church by what the secular state says it to be? You are choosing to adhere to one state-based definition and not another. That's assuming that we've both thrown the bible out the window here, and done away with discussing scripture for the sake of secular argument, as you've done. 2. "There is no scriptural description of marriage other than what has already been offered you. However since the Scripture repeatedly admonishes us not to violate the laws of the land we have to look to those laws for further definition of the marriage. And as long as those laws do not force us to violate God’s law we must uphold them." You are looking to extra-biblical definitions of marriage. Rather than looking to the secular state to define marriage, you would've been more biblically-based to look to the Old Testament Law of Moses. The bible does indeed speak of the legalities of marriage, and it does say volumes more than what you've offered me. These verses are contained in the Old Testament Torah. I don't see it as feasible that you would toss aside the Law of Moses, and yet quote the laws of the land, as if they were bible. 3. "You know best what God has laid on your heart. I retract that suggestion as not to upset you further." Thank you. My priorities are on medical treatments. 4. "I mentioned the insurance issue in reference to your future wife. Possibly someone you meet would have such insurance and your medical needs would be met. I didn’t mean you should get another job." That'd be a nice benefit, but God forbid I should fall in love without the right insurance policy. Then I'd have to tell God that He sent me the wrong one, and nix a love relationship over money. 5. "I understand life and it’s twists having lived it myself for 57 years. What I meant was every time a point is made you offer a counter point. It appears your intent is to debate this rather than seek advice." And have you not offered counter-points here? And most of them are secularly-based. If you wish to present a concise scripture unit, and then verify it's applicability to a specific situation, I'd be glad to hear it. Instead, however, you've told me that the bible says no more about marriage, than the verses that you've offered me. When indeed the bible has volumes more than what you've offered me. You've merely set aside what the Old Testament Law of Moses says about marriage, and have rather appealed to the secular state. - Genesis 2 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed. (NAS95) (continued) |