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NASB | Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the [precious, undeserved] grace of the Lord Jesus [which makes us free of the guilt of sin and grants us eternal life], in just the same way as they are." |
Subject: Show me scripture that says we can sin |
Bible Note: romans5n1 You said, "However, a true Christian can be out of fellowship with God, in which case, they may "look for limits or boundaries." It is the Spirit which drives us to obey God, but the Spirit can be quenched (not lost, but silenced) due to unrepentant sin (i.e. out of fellowship with God). This is of course a tragic situation, and we as Christians should seek to help those in this sort of situation find their way back." Interesting! How do you propose to help them back more importantly what do you say to convince them they need to come back? Look at the picture you painted, they are satisfying the flesh (sin) and they have satisfied the spirit (salvation). tragically the picture you paint makes it appear they have nothing to lose and every to gain heaven and earth. Nonsense! These are exactly the people that need to be confronted and made to face the fact they either were never saved (for all you once saved always saved fans) and need to repent and get right, or in fact they have lost their salvation ( for all those that believe you can backslide) and need to get right. I maintain a person that is in willful sin either was never saved or they have lost their salvation. I really don't care which. However I do care that many people are going to be very surprised by the teaching yes can be saved and at the same time be committing willful sin. I believe we see this picture in the parable of wedding dinner. There is a guest sitting at the table but the king sees he doesn't have his proper attire on. In other words he has never washed his clothing white in the blood of Jesus. Matthew 22:11-12 (NASB) 11 "But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12 and he said* to him, 'Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?' And the man was speechless. We (church) has made it so easy for salvation (just believe). We played down confronting the sin in our lives, repentance, producing good fruit, studying to show ourselves approved, putting away the things of this world, witnessing, service, and everything else that goes with being a servant of God. That what we have produced is a generation of people that think they are saved, they believe God and Christ exists, yet live like hell itself. If you don’t mind I think it better to tell them they need to get saved and apologize in heaven if we were wrong, than to tell them they are saved but need to change some things. In this case I fear we may never to see them in heaven to tell them we were wrong. Personally I think the blood of many are going to be on the hands of those that in any way trivializes sin in the life of a believer. That is not an accusation at you! EdB |