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NASB | Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the [precious, undeserved] grace of the Lord Jesus [which makes us free of the guilt of sin and grants us eternal life], in just the same way as they are." |
Subject: Show me scripture that says we can sin |
Bible Note: Doc Addressing points 1 and 2 I don’t think I ever said a Christian never sins. If I did or implied as much then I was wrong. What I meant and I believe I did say was a Christian will not enter into preconceived or premeditated sin. There is a big difference. For instance I believe a Christian can be found guilty of manslaughter where in rage they killed a fellow human being, but I don’t think a Christian can be guilty of first degree murder where they staked the victim for months planing the murder. Philippians 4:8 (NASB) 8 Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things. James 1:14-16 (NASB) 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. Notice the results in the passage from James, “death”, can’t be reconciled to a saved person can it? Point 3 I never said nor did I mean to imply upon salvation all sin is immediately conquered. In fact I never addressed the point at all. But since you brought it into the discussion let me comment. Many have to re-train the tongue where a slip will cause us distress, habits have to be conquered but we are instantly aware that they do not conform to a righteous life. The worst thing that can be done as we walk the walk of sanctification is to be told “oh don’t worry everyone sins.” What I said is as we walk the path of Salvation each one of us is brought to a threshold, or a fork in the road, where we must choose. Either to continue to satisfy the lust within our flesh or to submit to God and resist the devil so that he flees from us James 4:7. I answered you as best I could keeping 1 Thess 5:14 in mind but also recalling Hebrews 5:13-14 to mind also EdB |