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Subject: O.T. Israel salvation? |
Bible Note: Greetings Zach† Your comments on Heb. 6:4-6 reminded me of the post that I tried to post the other day, but lost. Let me give you the sort version. The usual approach to Heb. 6:4-6 is to either say that it can't happen or to say that once it does happen, it can't be undone. However, I found some interesting information the other day. The two participles in verse 6 could be either causual or temporal. If they are causual, then Heb. 6:6 is saying that those who haven fallen away cannot be renewed to repentance BECAUSE they have crucified Christ to themselves and are making a public spectacle of Him. However, they could very well be temporal. In this case, Heb. 6:6 would be saying that those who have fallen away cannot be renewed to repentance WHILE they are crucifing Christ to themselves and are making a public spectacle of Him. Of the two, I prefer the temporal view for several reasons. First of all, the participles are all in the present tense. It makes more sense to take this tense as a temporal, rather than a causual - though this is not impossible either. I would expect an aorist tense if a causual meaning were being expressed - point of action. Secondly, I would not expect the comma (which is in the Greek text) after 'repentance' and before the two participles if they were intended to be causual. The comma seperates them into a seperate clause. This is interesting though because the inability to be brought back to repentance would then only apply during the action expressed by the two participles. If the action were to cease, then the inability would no longer be in effect. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |