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NASB | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:5 Jesus answered, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God. [Ezek 36:25-27] |
Subject: You have to be born of water and spirit |
Bible Note: Hi BradK. Just adding a little levity, really I hope you know me well enough that I am not intending any malice ether my friend. Sorry. And speaking what I believe to be true is no burden, and really not difficult at all. Personally I think that the view that Jesus was referring to the amnionic fluid of natural birth is not really all that good because its really to much of a no brainer. Of course he would have to be fiscally born or he wouldn't be standing there talking to Him. And (we) know, that we have to be born fiscally to get reborn spiritually. And may I say, I don't think that is something Jesus needs to teach us. Its just to obvious. And, may I say that there are literally billions of people born that don't get born again. Lets look at the list again please. 1. Water means natural birth and Spirit indicates spiritual birth. 2. Water and Spirit together indicate a cleansing and spiritual renewal. 3. Water is the baptism of John and Spirit is what comes with Jesus. 4. Water indicates the outward part of Christian baptism and Spirit the inward part. OK. you already know I don't hold to number 1. and 3 and 4 both refer to baptism. And we know that water baptism is not essential to being born again. So. that leaves number 2. And the water indicates to me the spiritual cleansing we get from the Word. So. one three and four, are out the door. Sorry :-) And, I am not as I have said before dogmatic about this. I really just don't see this, as a hard thing to understand. Thanks for all the info brother, But its not going to change my mind. (alleged mind that is) ;-) God bless Brother BradK. John |