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NASB | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:16 ¶ "For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life. |
Subject: Created for heaven or hell? |
Bible Note: Hello again, and thank you for your reply! How would you understand Romans 9:6 that says "not all are Israel who are descended from Israel." We as Gentiles are spiritual Israel. God loved Jacob and hated Esau before either had done anything good or bad, in order that GOD'S purpose according to election might stand, not because of either of their work's (choice, choose, etc... are verbs, and verbs show action), but because of HIM who calls.(Romans 9:11-13) According to Romans 9:6-29, it's God's decision.I believe all who believe will be saved also, but who will believe? Romans 3:10 and 11 says "there is none righteous, no not one; There is none who understands, There is NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD." Does "none" mean none? Also, belief is a work, but salvation is not of works, but belief is not a work of man, it is a work of God. Look at John 6:29: "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." Did Esau have a way out, Scriptures says God hated him before he had done any good or bad and that it was God's choice, not Esau's. Where does Scripture say that all are called in the context of "all individuals"? Now speaking of Gentiles, there are some who are children of the promise, and Acts 13:48 very clearly says how they believed. Acts 13:48 "And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as HAD BEEN APPOINTED (past tense) to eternal life believed." It doesn't say "as many as believed were appointed to eternal life", it says "as many as had been appointed." I have a neat little e-mail I wrote to another person on the subject of Romans 9 that I would like to share, but it is way too big for this venue. If you are interested, look at my profile, and send me an e-mail, and I will send it to you. If not, we can continue to talk this way. I'll quit for now, and let you respond to what has been said thus far. Talk to you soon, proorizo. |