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NASB | John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:13 "No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]. |
Subject: Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? |
Bible Note: I still disagree with your understanding of the Scriptures. To make John 3:13 fit into your understanding, you have to disregard the other Scriptures that clearly state these individuals did not die. I have spent some time this evening reading in commentaries, books, and different study Bibles just on John 3:13 and NONE of them come to the conclusion that you have. On page 282 of Figures of Speech Used in the Bible, "It does not deny that men like Enoch and Elijah had been taken up by God, which is a very different thing." (If I knew how to type all the Greek characters and such I would of put in the whole article, which is interesting.) As far as 2 Chronicles 21:12-15, that is easy, mail service is bad today, what do you think it was like back then! (Just a little humor, my wife is a mail carrier.) Realistically, reading in commentaries, the experts don't agree. It could be the date of his chariot ride occurred after the letter. It could be he sent the letter then was taken up, not like the letters were delivered quickly. So the letter is a non-issue in my book. I don't pretend to be a Bible Scholar, I only wish I had more time to spend reading and studying the Word. Although I do like a good conversation like this that gets me digging and piling up books all around me. I will still have to respectfully disagree with you, but unfortunately I just don't have the time or skills to get in-depth. Off to bed, have a long day tomorrow. Brad |