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NASB | John 3:13 "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:13 "No one has gone up into heaven, but there is One who came down from heaven, the Son of Man [Himself--whose home is in heaven]. |
Subject: Enoch and Elijah didn't see God yet? |
Bible Note: I have to question your sources since they contradict each other on the "real" definition of "Ascend". In the first they say it means to go with authority. In the second they basically say it means to climb up in your own strength. John 3:13 gives no hint of the meaning of ascend other than to go up. It doesn't suggest going up in authority or pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. And if Elijah did go to heaven how do you explain the letter he sent to Jehoram 10 years later? No I'm not discounting scripture I looking at scripture the only way that it can be looked at witout building a contradiction into it. Any time man's understanding produces a contradiction you can be sure man's understanding is the problem not the scripture. |