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NASB | John 3:11 "Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:11 "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony. |
Subject: Who is the son of man which is in heaven |
Bible Note: Hi Brent, I hope to change your thinking on this because you have some inconsistencies in your post. In your first paragraph you said that "Jesus is the only human being who was an eyewitness of heaven." However, in the second paragraph you were agreeing with me that "God the Son was not a human being before He first came to the earth." I would hope that you will again agree that the God the Son was not a human being in heaven. 1) In your first paragraph you said that you used "one" to replace the phrase "human being". However, if you look at it again you will find that you were talking about the Son of Man, the One who descended from heaven. 2) I hope that you will reconsider your statement in your third paragraph where you write, "However, He is certainly a "son of man" now." First of all, if that is how you look at Jesus now, then you should have written, "However, he is certainly a "son of man" now." I hope that you will consider again that God is not a son of man. Why would Jesus go back to glory as a human being? He was being worshiped by His disciples and being watched ascending into heaven as the Son of Man and as God Himself. 3) In your last paragraph you write that "Christ will be a human being forever..." I have asked many times while on this forum, "Why do we have to see Jesus as a man?" I believe that Jesus was fully God and fully Man. He was a type of Adam who was called "Man". Jesus is the second Adam and He came as a Man. We can look together at some of the "first-born" passages of Scripture if you would like. From the heart, Ray |