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Bible Note: EdB: Shalom! After carefully reading your previous post, it seems to me that we are not so far apart in our thinking. The disagreement may be more about terminology than the substance of our thoughts. You write: "Once more my misgivings is not with the concept but rather with the actual execution of the that process." "My problem is not with Sola Scriptura as I have been trying to say. My concern is most people are unable for whatever reason to properly apply it to find God direction." That sounds a lot like what I've been posting for the past three days: "Very few of the differences that exist are due to sola scriptura; the VAST majority are due to a failure to [properly, intelligently] apply sola scriptura." You write: "Everyone reads the Bible to their 'own' understanding and then claiming Sola Scriptura go off into never never land." I agree that everyone reads the Bible to their own understanding of it. However, regardless of what people claim, the fact is that everyone determining BY HIMSELF what the Bible means is not sola scriptura. Instead it is SOLO scriptura. As I understand it, the principle of sola scriptura (basing our beliefs on Scripture) and how we INTERPRET the scriptures [upon which our beliefs are based] may be related, but they are separate and distinct, issues. Sola scriptura is not a methodology for interpreting Scripture. The problem is not due to basing our beliefs on Scripture; the problem is basing them on our own individual faulty interpretation of Scripture. The problem is the false notion of SOLO scriptura -- me and my Bible. SOLA scriptura does not mean "me and my Bible". I.e., it does not mean just give me my Bible and a desert island, I can figure it out for myself in isolation from the body of Christ, and "I don't need no" Greek word studies, lexicons, or the gifted teachers that Christ Himself has given to the church. What I described in the last sentence is SOLO scriptura (just me and my Bible), not SOLA scriptura. Truly the problem is not the principle of sola scriptura; it is the misapplication of the principle. It was never my intent to twist your position. My aim is and has been to understand it. I think that now I do understand your position better than I did. And if you mean what I think you mean, then I agree with you. Ed, I have much respect for and appreciation of you. Yours in Christ, kalos |