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Bible Note: Kalos My problem is not with Sola Scriptura as I have been trying to say. My concern is most people are unable for whatever reason to properly apply it to find God direction. The question then becomes who is to make the decision? Should it be the authority established over us in the church or not? Everyone reads the Bible to their "own' understanding and then claiming Sola Scriptura go off into never never land. Having already rejected most authority this process breeds more and more problems. The problem is some of these ideas while they resist tradition have some merit and need to be explored however since they are not consider orthodox Christianity they are summarily rejected. Others that have little or no merit for one reason or another seem to attract attention and many times eventually become a new denomination. I feel this process is the problem. Once more my misgivings is not with the concept but rather with the actual execution of the that process. I recall a time when authority was respected and the church was one of the authorities in our life. If they said this was wrong then most everyone felt it was wrong. Today if the church says this is wrong most people’s response is that is your interpretation of scripture not mine. Their claim is scripture not someone in the church is going to tell me what I’m going to believe. That is sola scriptura. We see it here on the forum. In nearly every discussion. One person reads scripture in a different light than another. Each believe without a shadow of doubt ‘his’ is the correct position. Most of these type discussions end with the thread being restricted because of tenor of the posts or someone gets insulted and leaves. At one time within the church all church doctrine was established by one church. It based it’s decisions on scripture, however in cases where two different readings or two different points of view prevailed then church history, oral and other written traditions, and even testimony of witnesses were used to establish clearly what was the preferred reading. I believe that was a good and correct process. I also believe that was what Christ desired for his church. However abuses also entered the process and the process needed to cleaned up. Instead of doing that the authority of the church was destroyed and every man has since taken this process upon himself. Now if that seems heretical to you so be it. As I have said I have tried more than once to convey this point and for some reason some want to try to twist my position from one of criticizing application to that of attacking the valid concept. EdB |