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NASB | Luke 11:52 "Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge; you yourselves did not enter, and you hindered those who were entering." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 11:52 "Woe to you lawyers, because you have taken away the key to knowledge (scriptural truth). You yourselves did not enter, and you held back those who were entering [by your flawed interpretation of God's word and your man-made tradition]." [Matt 23:13] |
Subject: Persicution |
Bible Note: Hi Humbled, Good response. First you respectfully gave credit to ominous for his/her right to raise the issues he/she did. Then you properly redirected the issue back to the truth. Well done. In your post, you brought up the issue of beginning a dialogue on rebuking a brother. I think that would be a good discussion even for those of us who "think" we might know the biblical teachings in this area. May I begin the dialague by starting with the following bible reference? Matt 18:15-18 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. KJV Now the only way to do this properly on the forum would be some form of private instant message and/or email which would have to be made available. I believe the rest of this process was played out well regarding a resent ongoing interaction between several forum members and one offender. I had considered calling for a halting of the dialogue with a certain formum member (of which I was at least equally involved). I considered this because I believed the above process had reached the point of "binding". Afterall, even a Jedi can be bound if he refuses to hear two or more witnesses of the church. What good can come out of the continuing bickering? The next question might be, if the one is not a "brother" in the first place, how should he/she be handled? Jeff |