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NASB | Matthew 24:39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 24:39 and they did not know or understand until the flood came and swept them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be [unexpected judgment]. [Gen 6:5-8; 7:6-24] |
Subject: left during flood,left second coming |
Bible Note: CDBJ, Part 2 As per your statement concerning Rev 7:9. “This is the whole body of Christ right after the rapture and if you assume that it is only a few that were saved during the tribulation, where is the church? This a very great gathering since (all) the angels were there, the elders were there, and the four beast were there but according to what you are trying to say, supposing that that church was rapture earlier, they weren't invited, I DON'T THINK SO! “ You must relax my brother. You seem uptight when your view differs with another’s view. I never said or intimated that there was only going to be a few saved during the tribulation period, just that the Church would not be on the earth during it. You mention the words “after this”. After this does not mean after the rapture. You have to go back to verse 3, which mentions the sealing of the servants of God on their foreheads, which are the 144,000 Jewish witnesses and then it’s mentioned how many from each tribe were sealed. Again you must see the difference between the rapture (being caught up together in the clouds) and the coming in Power and Great glory (the gathering of everyone). If you notice that in this chapter it tells of the 144,000 witnesses and then all nations, people…etc,etc. This is clearly a distinction between Jews and Gentiles while in the Church, there is neither Jew (Gal 3:28) nor Gentile. Another point that makes one think that the Church is not in this crowd is that their identities are spelled out in verses 13-14 in which John did not know who these people were. They are clearly stated as coming out of the great tribulation, all of them. Here again, I maintain that the dead in Christ have been raised and the Church has already been raptured and is here signified by the four and twenty elders, which are “seated”. Twelve of which are the Apostles representing the Church. If you read this passage carefully, they are “standing” before the throne of God and serve him night and day.. This appears, at least to me, to be an earthly scene, not a heavenly one. Plus, there isn’t any night in Heaven. Rev 21:25, 22:5 In the words of one of the brothers on this forum “I have found that a person can learn more if he doesn't push the envelope to the point where he is no longer flexible”. Love in Christ, Barry |