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NASB | Matthew 24:39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 24:39 and they did not know or understand until the flood came and swept them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be [unexpected judgment]. [Gen 6:5-8; 7:6-24] |
Subject: left during flood,left second coming |
Bible Note: Nice to see you CDBJ, It's been too long since I've read your pleasant words. :) First of all my brother, "a thief in the night" are the words of our Lord, not mine. I used "quiet", you used "sneak". Now isn't that what a thief in the night does, he sneaks in, takes what he wants and sneaks out? If this is not what a thief does then I'm mistaken and stand corrected. If a thief comes into your home at night and steals your wife’s diamonds, you wouldn't know it until your wife went to put her diamonds on. Well that’s what’s going to happen during the rapture. People will not know until it's too late. A thief does not come in power and great glory. Our Lord says “then they will see the son of man coming on the clouds with power and great glory”…….. “coming”, which means being seen from a distance as he comes to earth on the clouds with power and great glory. You don’t see a thief wen he comes in the night. A thief does not broadcast his actions. Also notice the word “they”. Jesus says “they will see”, not you will see, or you will all see, because the Church will no longer be there. I did not say that Jesus wasn't coming in Power and Great Glory. Indeed he is, but I maintain after the tribulation which is after the “rapture” when the Church is caught up in the clouds. There’s also a big difference between the words “caught”, “taken” and the word “gather”. Caught and taken are similar though. Caught: I Thess. 4:17 harpazô; from a prim. root harp-; to seize, catch up, snatch away:--carry off, snatch, snatched...away, snatches, snatches away, snatching, take...away...by force, take...by force. Taken: Matthew 24: 40-41 and many others paralambanô; to receive from:--receive, received, take, taken, takes, takes along, taking, took, took...along, took...aside, took along. Gather: Matthew 24:31, Ephesians 1:10 among others episunagô; to gather together:--gather...together, gather together, gathered, gathered together, gathers These are two separate moments. The Church is caught up or taken during the rapture and the elect and all in heaven are gathered together during our Lord’s glorious coming in Power and Great Glory. I’m sorry if you can’t see the difference between the two. I’m sorry if you can’t see what I’m trying to relate. I did not say that there were only a few that were saved during the tribulation. I did not say that the church was “not invited”, as you put it. The Church, when raptured is to be forever with the Lord as it says in 1 Thes. 4:17 It is not my contention to sway you or to argue with you but to present my view to the best of my ability. I was not anticipating a discussion of the Book of Revelation, just merely making note of the distinction between the Rapture and our Lord’s coming in Power and Great Glory. I hadn’t brought up this passage before but seeing as how you did, let’s take a quick look at it Rev 7:9 is, as you put it; "the whole body of Christ right after the rapture"? Well Jesus did say that no one knows the day, or the hour except the father, but you seem to have it pinpointed down to right after the sixth seal. That’s some divine revelation you’ve been given there brother :-) Matthew 24:14 “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” This is where Rev 7:9 comes in. Well I certainly don’t profess to understand all the Bible and I’m always open to different views. Part 2 is next but not as long |