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NASB | Matthew 23:23 ¶ "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Matthew 23:23 ¶ "Woe to you, [self-righteous] scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you give a tenth (tithe) of your mint and dill and cumin [focusing on minor matters], and have neglected the weightier [more important moral and spiritual] provisions of the Law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the [primary] things you ought to have done without neglecting the others. |
Subject: Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? |
Bible Note: I did answer that to you Law is for God as well, I exaplain to that the law included in the tithe and you have to prove to me that tithe is not including in the law! God established the law trough moses but it has to change! Again you ignore my last post and my answer to your question. You keep jumping in what comment do you like. You said"Some (like yourself) may contend, however, that the law was abrogated under the Gospel. If so, how much of the law, and in what sense? Is the law so abrogated as that we may now, at our pleasure, murder, lie, and steal?" What kind of question is this? As I told you before Jesus Christ gave us the two commandments: Mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mt 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mt 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mt 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. On that two commandments hang all the law of the prophets. What is it in the law that you disobey when you observe that tow law that given by Jesus Christ? Are you going to murder if love you neighbour? Are you going to steal from them if you love them? Do you think, before asking this question? You said"Have we not already seen that Christ came to fulfill the law--to confirm it to the least iota? Matthew 5:17-18," My answer: I did explain this to you before that He fulfill the law with a deeply and different meaning. I ask you if He disobey the when He done work on sabbath, but you ignore it to answer. You said" tithes and offerings applicable to the support of the ministry, and to other religious and charitable works, is clearly the duty of Christians, unless it can be shown that Christ repealed God's law previously promulgated. offering yes! but tithe is not! can you show in the new testament that Christ taught that we have tithe to support His ministry? I know you again ignore this. If you are telling the truth that to support the ministry we have to tithe prove me that Paul require anyone to give tithe in his evangelical journey? show me in the scriptures that they collected tithe enable to support his evangelical works? I know again you will not answer this, but I try. My friends don’t rely own your words that support your statement with the scriptures. If you are telling the truth that enable to support the ministry we give tithe please show me any of the disciples that collecting tithes enable to support their mission? If you can show those verses and event, that will close this discussion, but if cannot show me those verses and events, it is true that you rely in your heresay. Please be reminded that you still not disprove my points! You did not put any verses that will show that Christ teach the tithe! Let remind you to the pints that I raise and you ignore, please try to answers my questions before putting yours, with all due respect when you asked me about abraham and how he tithe I answers those question to you. Now here is my points that I want you to answers. And please answers them with the passages in the new testament. I hope you know when I said teaching of Christ it is in the new testament. 1. Prove to me that Jesus Christ has any single teaching that will require us to give ten percent of our income. 2. Please show me any of the apostle that require thier members to give ten percent of thier income. 3. When paul stated that law cannot justify us did he excluded then tithe. 4. Where in the new testament that we have to give tithes and not love offering. If you quoted in the old there is no question about that because they bound the law. 5. Please show me that tithe is not including in the law of prophet. Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 6. The authority to received tithe is given to the levites and when the change the law they exclude the tithes. Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Please answer those question before asking yours because I did answers your questions it is you ignore mine. 7. Why you did not observe the law of moses but you still require to give tithes, if the law cannot justify us what is it in the tithes that will exclude in the law of moses. If you cannot show them please dont bother anymore! With all due respect you dont know how to deal with discussion, learn it first before you engage! God bless. Johnny |