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NASB | Micah 7:19 He will again have compassion on us; He will tread our iniquities under foot. Yes, You will cast all their sins Into the depths of the sea. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Micah 7:19 He shall again have compassion on us; He will subdue and tread underfoot our wickedness [destroying sin's power]. Yes, You will cast all our sins Into the depths of the sea. [Ps 103:12] |
Subject: God's Forgiveness of Sin |
Bible Note: Greetings to you Reformer Joe, If I’m understanding you correctly, your stance agrees with the “perseverance or ultimate triumph of the saints view”. Once again, if I understand it correctly, according to this view all genuine believers persevere and overcome the world by living godly and obedient lives. Overcoming is equivalent to faithfulness or obedience, which proves the genuineness of salvation. Is it true that MacArthur’s interpretation adheres to what has come to be called the “Reformed Doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints”, Which states that all true believers will persevere in a life of godly obedience. They admit that there may be temporary setbacks and bouts with sin, but that ultimately, true believers live victorious, holy lives to the end. Or do you hold to the Loss of salvation view? According to this interpretation, the promises are predicated on overcoming. To fail to overcome is to lose salvation. Do you disagree that the loss of salvation view contradicts the belief that believers are kept secure by the finished work of Christ? Jesus said, “and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand” (John 10:28-29), they “shall not come into judgment” (John 5:24), and “have already passed from death into life” (John 5:24). “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). I agree that there are people who say they are believers but they have never truly given their hearts to the Lord. This person might believe that Jesus is savior but never has and never will want Jesus to be his Lord. Obviously, these phonies fill the pews of mainline churches all over the world. They are the people you have in view when you say, "divorcing the earthly, progressive sanctification of the believer from his true justification". I understood this forum to be an exchange of views and insight based on personal study of the scripture and the information obtained from respected scholarship, rather than an opportunity to unjustly criticize a brother in the Lord. In Him, Eagle One |