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NASB | Obadiah 1:8 "Will I not on that day," declares the LORD, "Destroy wise men from Edom And understanding from the mountain of Esau? |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Obadiah 1:8 "Will I not on that day," says the LORD, "Destroy the wise men from Edom [removing all wisdom] And understanding from the mountain of Esau? |
Subject: Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? |
Bible Note: Aaron, You write a lot of thought-provoking notes here. Thank you for your indepth answers. You reference that even the natural creation declares the glory of God. I have to wholeheartedly agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at (or conversely understand better myself) is that an adult's rejection of the gospel is largely made via one's own earthly mind and mortal level of understanding. Indeed all wisdom originates from God, both spiritual and earthly. Nonetheless, I personally tend to view the large majority of supposed conversions and/or rejections of the gospel as being made according to the earthly type of knowledge, wherein the volition is somewhat compromised due to lack of spiritual awareness. I have to ponder some of the things that you write in your post here a bit more, insofar as I need to isolate some inconsistencies in either my own belief system or in some of the notions presented on these boards. It is my personal perspective that the majority of religious conversions and/or rejections of the gospel are done on a shallow level of earthly psuedo-consciousness, thereby largely lacking any degree of eternal impact. ---- I said to myself concerning the sons of men, "God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts." For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth? (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 NAS95) Reighnskye |