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NASB | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Isaiah 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning [light-bringer], son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, You who have weakened the nations [king of Babylon]! |
Bible Question: Isaiah 14 speaks of the Fall of Lucifer. I am pretty proficient with the Word of God, however i found something that made me think a bit. Verse 16 and 17 say "Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, who made the world as a wilderness, And destroyed its cities . . ." If Im not mistaken this is pre-Garden of Eden. "cities?" "kingdoms?" Also, in verse 20 goes on to say " . . you have destroyed your land and slain your people. The brood of evildoers shall NEVER BE NAMED" Are we still talking about Lucifer. Did he have "a people" that was pre-Adamic? |
Bible Answer: "Some Christians have seen an allusion to the fall of Satan here, but this seems contextually unwarranted (see J. Martin, BKCOT, 1061)." ____________________ The NET Bible Isaiah14:12 Look how you have fallen from the sky, O shining one, son of the dawn! [23] You’ve been cut down to the ground, O conqueror [24] of the nations! [25] 23tn The Hebrew text has rjv-/b llyh (“Helel son of Shachar”), which is probably a name for the morning star (Venus) or the crescent moon. See HALOT 245. sn What is the background for the imagery in vv. 12-15? This whole section (vv. 4b-21) is directed to the king of Babylon, who is clearly depicted as a human ruler. Other kings of the earth address him in vv. 9ff., he is called “the man” in v. 16, and, according to vv. 19-20, he possesses a physical body. Nevertheless the language of vv. 12-15 has led some to see a dual referent in the taunt song. These verses, which appear to be spoken by other pagan kings to a pagan king (cf. vv. 9-11), contain several titles and motifs that resemble those of Canaanite mythology, including references to Helel son of Shachar, the stars of El, the mountain of assembly, the recesses of Zaphon, and the divine title Most High. Apparently these verses allude to a mythological story about a minor god (Helel son of Shachar) who tried to take over Zaphon, the mountain of the gods. His attempted coup failed and he was hurled down to the underworld. The king of Babylon is taunted for having similar unrealized delusions of grandeur. Some Christians have seen an allusion to the fall of Satan here, but this seems contextually unwarranted (see J. Martin, BKCOT, 1061). 24tn Some understand the verb to from vlj, “to weaken,” but HALOT 324 proposes a homonym here, meaning “to defeat.” 25sn In this line the taunting kings hint at the literal identity of the king, after likening him to the god Helel and a tree. The verb udg, “cut down,” is used of chopping down trees in 9:10 and 10:33 (http://www.bible.org/netbible/index.htm) |