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NASB | Proverbs 16:33 The lot is cast into the lap, But its every decision is from the LORD. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Proverbs 16:33 The lot is cast into the lap, But its every decision is from the LORD. |
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Bible Note: Dear Kiley, The affection that people have for their own self determinism, entrenches this presupposition so deeply that neither logic nor authority can hope to dislodge it -- at least, neither logic nor authority alone. The human heart, being predisposed to its own control ("master of my fate, and captain of my soul") makes men tenaciously clutch the self-affirmation taught from many a pulpit. If you care to search the forum, you'll find that I have addressed, if not directly to you, each and every one of your objections (they are not new) as succinctly and clearly as I was able. To me, that record seems sufficient. I apologize, but I lack the time, energy, and desire to pursue this topic. I have to employ wisdom as to which enterprise warrants expending my limited resources. Nothing personal. If you would like to investigate it further, for your own purposes, going beyond the meager offerings in the SBF archives: The theological subject you are speaking of is addressed in a branch of theology known as soteriology. It is explicitly called "libertarian free will" or "decisional regeneration." With no cost, and little effort, you can find over two thousand years of discussion and judgment in the church, on the topic using these keyword combinations: Pelagianism/Augustinianism, Arminianism/Calvinism, Meritorious Works/Freely Credited Faith, Prevenient Grace/Irresistible Grace, Foreseen Faith/ Unconditional Election, Synergism/Monergism, Open Theism/Classical Theism, etc. Everywhere you'll find Scripture references, history, and rhetoric galore. I hope that these resources will be of benefit to you. As you deem best, exercise your free will to exert the intellectual sweat to study the subject, either to increase the sophistication of the arguments you use to bolster your current position, or to revise that position. You might even enjoy the process. Thank you for the discussion. In Him, Doc PS If you like A. W. Tozer, you might be interested in the 27th chapter of "The Knowledge of the Holy." He has some light treatment of this subject there. |