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NASB | Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Job 38:1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, |
Subject: Why won't Calvinists answer directly??? |
Bible Note: PART TWO: In your Part two, I think I've answered your first two paragraphs but would be happy to directly respond to any scripture verses you supply although I have done this elsewhere in this forum. (I would appreciate it if you would respond to my 3 original questions first though). The idea of God being fair or not has nothing to do with why I don't believe in Election. If God were fair (in God's terms) then we would all go to Hell. If God were fair (in human terms) then all good people would go to Heaven. The point is that God did put a limit on the people that would be saved. That limit is that ANYONE that CHOSES to believe in His Son and repent their sins will be saved. You bring up the example of the person driving a Honda Accord for 20 years and just because I don't drive one I'm in no position to get you to change cars. I assume then you also believe if you talked to a Jehovah's Witness, a Mormon, an Athiest, a Prostitute, etc... then you would not be able to show them what it means to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior? I believe I could get you out of that Accord and into a Grand Prix if I were to show you enough examples of why the Accord is a bad car, has poor safety records, is driven only by those that have been taught "that's the car we drive, son", etc... (Although this is a bad example because the Accord really is a good car.) I assume by your 2nd to last paragraph that you believe that the three questions I asked are not well-thought-out or scripturally based, otherwise you would have attempted to answer them. If this is so, please let me know why. Thank you (and sorry about the long reply) I also respect your right to your own attitudes, but I also think about the passage where we are warned against those that teach false doctrine. I'm not saying that Election is false doctrine, it's that I'm trying to determine (for myself) if it's worth running from (or fighting against). A little background info -- I'm attending a church that is Calvinistic in majority (and believe in Election - "only some are chosen to be saved") and have come to the conclusion that I need to either understand how I may be misinterpreting the bible, fight or run) I'm not one to believe in something just because someone says it's true. I have to research it for myself and see if there could be two possible interpretations and if not, then determine if this is a doctrinal matter or just a little human petty thing. I really am trying to understand the Election idea but have not received any real help. Thank you for your patience. |