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Bible Question (short): Problems with Election Theory - Part One |
Question (full): Thank you for the rather long reply (although you still refuse to interpret how the 3 questions I asked in the original posting relate to the idea of Election.) In Part 1, you accuse me of not having any knowledge of Election. You are greatly mistaken. I may not have as many years mainly because I can't as easily believe in something that I don't feel is biblically sound. You also asked why I "branded" this as Calvinism. Mainly because this is one of the points that Calvinist believe. Assuming that there are Non-Calvinists that believe in Election then I will use the term Election believers rather than Calvinists. You also stated that because the word "Free Will" is only used two times and only then in reference to offerings that it must mean the the doctrine of election is true. I assume then that you don't believe in the Trinity because that word is never used. You have mistakenly assumed that since the term we call "free will" is not mentioned that it must not exists. What you fail to see is all the examples of "free will" that do exists. The same is true for the Trinity. Although the word we use to describe it doesn't exist, examples that show it does. As far as the count of the words elect, election, chose, and chosen you include many accounts that talk more of free will than election. James 4:4 Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. John 7:17 If anyone chooses to do God's will... and many more. In fact, of the 66 times you say "choose" is mentioned, There are only three that when taken out of context could be used to relate to election. Please don't overinflate your numbers to make your point hoping that people will just take for granted what you say. Then then said that there was not one word that contradicts the teaching of election. You were right. There are many, many words. Examples were the three questions that you nor anyone else I've asked seem to be able to explain. If you'd like more examples, let me know. In your last paragraph in part one, I think you are really referring to the way people that believe in Election are. I have explained what I'm opposed to and defined it. I've shown (in other postings) how the typical election verses are taken out of context. I've tried to see the Election viewpoint but have had all my questions go unanswered. You also seem to imply that the only people that will understand Election are the people that accept it. I assume that I misinterpreted what you wrote because that statement would be absurd in trying to prove your point. (Continued in Part Two) |