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NASB | Job 21:15 'Who is the Almighty, that we should serve Him, And what would we gain if we entreat Him?' |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Job 21:15 'Who [and what] is the Almighty, that we should serve Him? And what would we gain if we plead with Him?' [Ex 5:2] |
Subject: Pragmatism is of the World |
Bible Note: Hello, Ray. Thank you very much for taking time to respond to my post and for giving me some new things to think about. :) After I posted to you yesterday, I went back and reread your post a couple of times. I realized that I was missing (what I believe was) the key point that you were trying to make and knew that it had to do with the upper and lower case use of the letter "k" in the word king. So first of all, I will confess to you (and everyone else) that I realize I am hypersensitive towards anything that hints at a "works" gospel. I won't apologize for that but I will apologize if it causes me to misinterpret the main idea someone is wanting to express (as in the case yesterday). The only way I can see to deal with this "problem" I'm having is to acknowledge the main idea, derive any benefit from it (the opportunity to learn), and ask about the statements that I believe are in opposition to what the Bible teaches. With those things in mind, I address the latest post by you (directed to me: 129690). I want to preface anything I write henceforth by saying that even if a statement is within the context of the main idea (which, of course, it would be), if, on its own, it is something I believe to be false I will question it. Okay, now to the heart of this post: I am very sincere in giving thanks to you for giving me some things to "chew on". After looking at the verses in John 18 (37-38) and seeing Jesus acknowledging He is "a king" I am now very curious as to His statement. Though it may be painfully obvious to some, I am trying to understand how He was/is a king in the lower case sense of the word. To say He is THE King (King over all, uppercase K) is easy. His Word makes that plain. And yet, I am struggling with the concept of Him being a king in the earthly sense of the word (a male sovereign over a group of people). I would be very interested in anything you (or others) would like to share on the subject. Though I have a little bit of difficulty getting it totally straight in my mind, I can understand the concept of Him being the Light (though I'm not sure if I would equate "enlighten all men" with "gives light to every man"...I'll have to get back to you on that). And I can easily see that Jesus was indeed a man as well as the second Adam. However, would you please explain (if time permits) how He was a savior, lower case, if the definition of that word is, "A person who rescues another from harm, danger, or loss." Again, it is simple to see Him as Savior, upper case form. I'm also having the same difficulty with the word, "rock". In what way was He a "fortress, stronghold" in the earthly sense of the word? To help you understand my perspective, I am looking at all these things from the point of them equating to His earthly ministry. How else can we apply any lower case word to Him except to apply it to His humanity (as opposed to His diety)? Help, please! My brain is hurting! With all of that addressed I will now move on to my "nit-picking" for today. Your statement was: "So I do not want you or anyone to make Him king of your life. I want us to make Him King of kings, and Lord of lords. That is accomplished by accepting the things, the truths, of God's word; even knowing the Truth." Please help me to understand how we can possibly make Christ anything. If I fail to accept the truths of God's Word, even "knowing the Truth", is He no longer King of kings? Or are you meaning that we are to acknowledge Him for who He is? Part of my confusion is in the phrase, "I want us to MAKE Him King of kings..." Your definition above of "make" is, " "to do" something, to accomplish a thing." Ray, please believe me when I say it is not my intention to cause dissension. I truly want to understand your position. I hope you can help me. In Him, Karen |