Subject: Can a person push God too far?? |
Bible Note: I am not sure what you mean to say by this. I often wonder exactly what my baptist friends mean (not saying you are baptist) when they say similar statments. I am not posting this to argue or debate or to criticise you. I think you love the Lord, know the Lord and walk with God. I do not accuse you of any kind of heresy. Maybe you refer to New Testament teachings.. Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. There are numerous references to backsliding in the OT and always that I can tell they refer to Israel. The Israel God made a covenant with. The Israel God said he was married to. Of all the arguements that can be used to enforce the idea that a born again Christian can never be rejected by God the same arguments can be used about Israel. When someone says, Can God stop calling you a son if He is your Father? so also one could say Did God stop calling Israel His Wife if she would not repent? The opposing view about whether a born again person can backslide and be lost or whether he can't if presented by two true brothers on opposite sides of the issue usually are saying the same things. The one that says a person who lives in open sinful lusts of the flesh and does not turn from them or make some genuine effort at repenting is not going to heaven even if he says he has been born again is most often agreed upon by the brother who says that indeed such a person is not going to heaven, but not becuase he was born again and fell, but becuase he was never saved, for a saved person cannot live that way. The one that says a person living in open rebellion or secret sins will not inherit the kingdom of heave agrees with the one that say he must not be saved at all because the holy brother knows what misery he feels when or if he falls into sin and cannot comprehend how anyone could endure a week of living without the full confidence that all things are right between himself and God through being covered by the blood by faith and walking a holy walk of faith and being quick to repent. So what both sides are really saying is.. the saved person walks in holiness and if he fails he repents and the unsaved person lives a careless existence taking no thought for the wrath to come. |