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NASB | Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease." |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 8:22 "While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, Cold and heat, Winter and summer, And day and night Shall not cease." |
Subject: By the bible, is nuclear winter possible |
Bible Note: 1. I'll try to respond the original question of this thread, i.e. about the possibility of nuclear winter or global warming, in light of Gen 8:22. Neither of these manmade catastrophes would cause the natural cycles to stop, but they would be greatly altered, so much so that we would be most uncomfortable if not dead. This scripture does not preclude this alteration, so I submit that scripture does not say nuclear winter or global warming will not be permitted to occur, if that is what we bring upon ourselves. 2. You asked "why should anyone accept the "modern scientific understanding of the physical universe" as being the absolute truth,when it is an incontrovertible historical fact that "scientific understanding" has changed and often reversed itself since the idea of "scientific understanding" came into being? I never said that that science is absolute truth and do not endorse the idea that it is. However, Romans 1:20 speaks to our being able to see God's fingerprint on His creation, and the most rigorous way we look at creation is through the scientific method. Clearly, the scientific method is constrained in ways beyond the scope of this forum to discuss. That does not imply it is necessarily incorrect, rather only that it may be incorrect because it is not complete nor the only way to examine the world. I note that James enourages us to "test everything, keep what is good". Science tests everything. Please note, I do not deny the truths expressed by art, music, history or literature and in a similar manner, do not deny the truths of science. I merely accept them for what they are and don't stake my life on them. I stake my life on God. 3. You asked, "Who is the judge of whether science is "done properly?" Science done properly is science done in the open, subject to refinement and revision by public discourse and agreement based on evidence, reason and yes, faith, i.e. faith in the method. There is no science fact or theory that is not subject to rejection in light of new evidence. 4. You asked "How does evolution "reveal God's creation" and since when has this theory been elevated to the status of one of "the truths that science reveals"? Evolution attempts to explain such things as adaptation, diversity, growth and interdependence, in other words, characteristics of life, which is what God is all about. You asked "How can the theory of evolution be reconciled with the Genesis account of creation?" I fail to see why this understanding contradicts Genesis because science can only study the fallen world and Genesis describes events that happened before the Fall, in a time/place we cannot penetrate in any way whatsoever. The gates to the garden are guarded from entry, even by our attempts to extrapolate scientific theories past them. The nature of paradise is completely distinct from the nature of the fallen world. Evolution applies to the fallen world only. Regarding the status of evolution, one need look no further than the fact that it has enabled man to manipulate the machinery of life in unprecedented ways, in much the same way nuclear physics allows us to manipulate energy. Both views have predictive utility as well as provide ways to destroy ourselves. If that's not a good standard for validity, then nothing is, at least in demonstrable practice. 6. You said "The truth is that attempts to promote science by discrediting the Bible will continue to turn people away from God." I agree completely. 7. Regarding your comments about the role of Christ, I agree. Parable |