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NASB | Genesis 2:9 Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 2:9 And [in that garden] the LORD God caused to grow from the ground every tree that is desirable and pleasing to the sight and good (suitable, pleasant) for food; the tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the [experiential] knowledge (recognition) of [the difference between] good and evil. [Rev 2:7; 22:14, 19] |
Subject: The fruit and leaves of the tree of life |
Bible Note: Jonp, First, I can appreciate feeling the need to respond to every post made to you. Second let me say that a quick lesson to learn regarding the forum is to not expect to respond to every post made to you. It may seem rude, but it's the reality of it. Very often the multiple responses are addressing the same issue and a response to the first questioner should be sufficient. In addition, there are others who can competently answer questions as well freeing you up from some of the responsibility. As for your response to the "angles" issue, I consider your response "spin" (and long-winded to state it truthfully) and will stand by my previous statements. You seem very intelligent and I'm sure capable of understanding my earlier point. Never mind getting into a NEW debate about the translations, that is, was the writer saying God incited David, or God's anger incited David. With the right understanding, the "angles" are easily disregarded. You will never find in Scripture the teaching that God is the cause of sin. I don't expect you to respond to that point, just consider it. I certainly have not suggested that the event times, culture, characters, and writer's personalities, etc. are not important and do not show up in what we read. None of it effects the truth as that has always been safe-guarded by the Author (Isaiah 55:11). You wrote: "So I can't quite agree that there are no angles in Scripture, even if we ignore the different angles from which we approach them." Fine, hold strongly to it if it pleases you. And it's your right as well to ignore my pointing out that the different angels are in how we approach the scriptures and not the other way around. Perhaps most revealing of yourself is your statement that "Eastern minds will interpret them very differently from us,.." Well, I can only say that you may be far more misguided than I had originally believed. The truth of Scripture is the truth of God and is not open to any interpretation other than that of God Himself. It's never changing. It is not influenced by time and certainly not geography. If I interpret Scripture in one way and someone in China interprets the same Scripture in another way, well friend, one of us is wrong. What your teaching is better known as relativism. It's not Scriptural. Please don't feel compelled to respond to this post. It is intended to help not hurt. Take from it what you will and throw out the rest. I do encourage you to be more careful in what you are teaching and at least consider a bit of the barrage of negative feedback you are getting from others. Otherwise, you risk presenting yourself as a "know-it-all" and unteachable. God bless, Jeff |