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81 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100753 | ||
I believe MH deserves another reading. "When any person is converted to God, then the veil of ignorance is taken away." ...Meaning: when the job is finished that he/she is fully converted "The condition of those who enjoy and believe the gospel is happy, for the heart is set at liberty to run the ways of God’s commandments. They have light, and with open face they behold the glory of the Lord." ..Commandments...things to be followed and adhered to that we become what?...Perfected? "Christians should prize and improve these privileges." ...Until what happens?...Perfection? Matthew 5:48 (NASB) "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. .... "And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing"...James. "We should not rest contented without knowing the transforming power of the gospel, by the working of the Spirit,....... [is he going to say a journey?] ..BRINGING US to seek to be like the temper and tendency of the glorious gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and into union with Him."....Matt. Henry Into what? UNION did He say? Is that anything like "Joint heirship"" |
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82 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100752 | ||
Incidently Oswald Chambers is good too if you understand him. | ||||||
83 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100751 | ||
Matthew Henry's theology is good. If you understood it, you would realize that he equates salvation with conversion, even as I do. Well then you if you understand him you should realize we are saved to be converted into something we weren't before we were saved, right? I mean one can't even see it before he's saved, right? That's the implication of MH's wording. He speaks of one succeeding in the journey, not failing. It is a journey in your thinking, isn't it. [Therefore the change from glory to glory is as a son along the entire course of our Christian lives. It is not a change unto future sonship.] Hmmm...? That's interesting... John 1:12 (KJV) But as many as received him, to them gave he power TO BECOME the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: |
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84 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100738 | ||
[To say we came out of a divine nature would require a vestige of that divine nature to be in each of us, thereby making us already gods in a certain respect and worthy of worship, glory, and praise. This is not the case. We are created beings (Gen 1:27) with no divine nature or tie to a divine nature beyond the Holy Spirit indwelling us when we believe.] That's an overkill to be sure. "Because we have come out of the divine nature, which chooses to be divine, we must choose to be divine, to be OF God, to be one with God, loving and living as he loves and lives, and so be partakers of the divine nature. Otherwise we perish." See John 17 because that's all McDonald is speaking of here. "Man cannot originate this life. It must be shown him, and he must choose it" ....by his own freewill that the Holy Spirit can direct. John 14:26 (NASB) "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. John 15:26 (NASB) "When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me [Wrong. Again Jesus is not the Father of it. He is the Author and Perfecter as you have stated. There is no Scripture saying He is the Father of sonship. Only God the Father can be that father. As for Jesus being the vehicle of sonship (i.e. the one through whom we receive sonship), I already gave John 1:12. I would also add Eph 1:5.] You're tough to keep from warping... Who is the "everlasting Father" in Isaiah? Who is Emmanuel with us? [#3. If I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying that Jesus is the Son only because of His finished earthly work. And that God, foreseeing that completed earthly work, was willing to say Jesus was His son.] Sure. As I stated somewhere, there is no time in God's thinking. Everything with God is in the present tense. He KNEW Jeremiah before he was born, etc. This places the foreknowledge of God at His disposal that He give direction to accomplish what He wants done to whomever is "adandoned" to Him. It's not pedestination as you may think I mean. Just foreknewldge. He knew the outcome of Jesus' life beforehand..Yours and mine, also. Remember Proverbs 16:9 (NASB) The mind of man plans his way, But the Lord directs his steps. The mind of man in this instance was Jesus' mind set on the purposes of God because of the ..."JOY set before Him..". God directed His steps. That said, where should our minds be set that we find favor with God that we become son's with new bodies? .....Pharaoh's mind was also set in Exodus. What did God do with him? Can't you see freewill in this? [Again the answer is no. The Son was given to mankind. He was always the Son as His relation in the Triunity of the Godhead. (Romans 8:3; Galatians 4:4-6; 1 John 4:9-14)] The Son eguals the "Word" who laid aside His heavenly attributes to become Jesus..."Thou shalt call His name Jesus..."....no longer the "Word". I don't think it necesssary I repeat my above refutation of your thinking. Jesus, the man is the new habitation for the Word. Now the [Word] has a Glorified human body to dwell in. [#4. You are confusing the work of sanctification (which is a learning process) with our adoption as sons (which is already accomplished--Romans 8:15; Galatians 3:26; Ephesians 1:5).] I'm not confusing anything. If it's a learning process then it's not finished is it? Seems you're the one confused. Why is the whole world groaning and still waiting for that to happen...Hmmm? Chambers is deep, too deep for those who don't understand the Kingdom of God and what becoming a son means. Lewis I never read that much of Him to have an opinion. |
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85 | "My witnesses?" | Acts 1:8 | Ken hepting | 100732 | ||
I understand, Mom.. In light of what you just wrote, i.e., believers who don't pursue, can you see something in that as it applies to John 3.3,5 and the consequences of such neglect? Check your statement with:Hebrews 2:3 (KJV) How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; [Note the word is neglect and NOT reject.] |
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86 | Who are the Pentecostals? | Acts 1:8 | Ken hepting | 100720 | ||
Yes, I believe that kind of thing is harmful when they don't get it right. But then it really is our responsibility to check it all out from anyone ...but not from the standpoint of discrediting anyone. Thanks, Mar. |
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87 | Who are the Pentecostals? | Acts 1:8 | Ken hepting | 100706 | ||
[Other spiritual gifts, such as healing, love, joy, prophecy, and answers to prayer, also make up Pentecostals' experience of God.] The "Handbook of Denominations" is off on the above Mararios. Love and Joy are fruit, not gifts. That surprises me they could make such a mistake. |
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88 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100693 | ||
That's right, I did. That's how I read him in an objective way. You read him your way. I think I'm right and have proven it so in my own life. [What do you think Matthew Henry meant when he said "converted?" A few clear sentences will do better than a long string of murky ones, Ken, if you please. --Hank] I'll do my best, Hank. Converted can't mean "just saved" because too many "saved" aren't. Is that deep enough not to be "murky"? Too many "saved people" who claim to be His Church are going to be in for rude awakening at Rapture time. It might well be the "Greatest Awakening". If you still think I'm wrong about that consider that Jesus is coming for Church without "spot or wrinkle".....Know any? |
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89 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100680 | ||
[We were all baptized. It is completed. Not one is left out. Your interpretation of John 1:12 as a gradual process from belief to sonship is invalid.] Nope..From glory to Glory He changes us. 2 Cor. 3:18 (KJV) But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. "When any person is converted to God, then the veil of ignorance is taken away. The condition of those who enjoy and believe the gospel is happy, for the heart is set at liberty to run the ways of God’s commandments. They have light, and with open face they behold the glory of the Lord. Christians should prize and improve these privileges. We should not rest contented without knowing the transforming power of the gospel, by the working of the Spirit, bringing us to seek to be like the temper and tendency of the glorious gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and into union with Him."....Matt. Henry Notice Henry is saying "when a person is converted"...Not just saved. A saved person is made innocent. Now he must be made pure. Surely his theology is ok in your estemation? I think you are invalid, Steve. You don't know what imputation and impartation mean. If you do then you should see that one is immediate and the other as you can handle it. |
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90 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100663 | ||
[When we are saved we are baptized by the Holy Spirit, inwardly ... it is automatic (Romans 6) ... then we have the option of the outward baptism.] I'd have an easier time of this if you said we received Christ and Him by means of the Holy Spirit at the time of new birth; Our being born again. [See John 20.22] But that isn't a baptism into something but a receiving of a divine nature. Jesus then baptises us with the Holy Spirit per Acts [2] for the purpose of becoming His Church. Are we baptised into the Body of Christ at the new birth? I believe so but Paul in Romans 6 links the two as normal Christian experiences. The first one as a necessity to being a part Christ and the second unto the ability to becoming a son. See: John 1:12 (NASB-U) But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, Unfortuately not all seek to become...Only to be saved. |
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91 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100639 | ||
I believe as you do Searcher, but one baptsm IS necessary. I want you to know which one is. If I tell you you may might forget...:0) All the other "baptisms" are a result of this one. | ||||||
92 | Was this man saved without Baptism | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100628 | ||
[The Baptism Regenerational camp has another answer ... but the TRUTH is that this man was saved and wasn't baptized ... nor did he do any works. Searcher] I believe this also but what does it say about baptism? If one believes baptism [part of that which] saves them, which one is it? |
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93 | Is accepting Christ as my saviour enough | Luke 23:40 | Ken hepting | 100627 | ||
Hi Firefly, Re: these comments [Another scripture is James 2:14-17 and on.... it talks about Faith without deeds... faith alone is not enough. There is a definite plan of salvation throughout the new testament. If your interested, start reading in Acts, it tells of what happened after Jesus death... it's the account of the first Church and tells what happened when Pentecost came and how baptism (to receive the Holy Spirit) came about (Acts 2:38)... I hope this was helpful...] I like your first paragragh but feel further explaining is needed for 2 and 3. In 2 who's faith are you speaking of that I need to function in that produce the works testifying of that faith? My faith took me to Him now what should happen? Do I need more of my faith? In 3 I'd like you to be more clear about reveiving the Holy Spirit. How do you reconcile Acts 2 with John 20:22 (NASB-U) "And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit...." I believe if you can see the difference here you will see the difference between "just saved" and "entering the kingdom" to begin to experience relationship with God". Check it out see what you think. Ken |
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94 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100532 | ||
Don't, except you want to learn. | ||||||
95 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100531 | ||
[I've heard of both men. I never liked Chambers' writing and Lewis' theology was flawed.] That speaks volumes. |
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96 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100483 | ||
This needs to be addressed and refuted because it does injury. #1.[Because we have come out of the divine nature] [This is invalid. We are made in the image and likeness of God, but we do not have a part with the divine nature.] Very valid! Mc Donald didn't say that. What he did say is that we came OUT OF IT. Read it again for the first time then use honesty in your reply. #2.Jesus is the father of their sonship [No, Jesus is the vehicle of our sonship (John 1:12) not the father.] Vehicle, you say!? Where's that in scripture? Chapter and verse, please! He IS the author and finisher of our faith. [at least mine] The everlasting Father of it! Jesus is the pioneer of our becoming a son; Father of it! Right? #3. He was not the Son of God because he could not help it, but because he willed to be in himself the Son that he was in the divine idea. [No. He was always the Son, because that is His eternal position (Isaiah 9:6).] Not as a Man, but known only to God that He would accomplish the task that God could say YES if asked beforehand if Jesus was His Son!! Everything with God is in the present tense and God knew Jesus would succeed! But in actuality it was yet to be accomplished by Him! The Son of God in [Jesus] had to be fulfilled [and was fulfilled in the foreknowledge of God..that's why Father withheld nothing from Him..He trusted Him...He was full of Grace and truth because Father knew He would complete His mission. All the temptations and trials He went through as a man and protecting His sinless nature was by showing His allegiance to the Father! Power at this Point!![ Isaiah 28:6 (NASB-U) .....A strength to those who repel the onslaught at the gate. We have temptations as well for the same reasons, i.e., showing our allegiance BUT/AND to overcome the enemy of our soul.. That's our responsibilty as "sons". We have His sinless LIFE plus The POWER of the Holy Spirit within us and upon us [those that are born again and have experienced Pentecost for themselves] to accomplish this; to Become as He was! #4. we must be the sons we are. [We are not sons until receiving Christ (John 1:12).] We are not son's at all at that point but children to be taught.. Learn the Bible before you teach it. John 1:12 (NASB-U) But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, ...And ... For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. ...A learning process to be sure.... For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus so that you will prove yourselves to be blameless and innocent, children of God above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you appear as lights in the world. [George McDonald has very bad theology.] Geo.McDonald was one of the mentors of Oswald Chambers and C.S.Lewis... Geo.McDonald knew God. |
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97 | Is the sin nature substance or mind set? | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100470 | ||
Good post, Tim...Makes sense since freewill is still intact like at the beginning when we chose to come to Christ for salvation. Ken |
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98 | Is the sin nature substance or mind set? | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100469 | ||
Absolutely! | ||||||
99 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100468 | ||
You might try applying that requirement of those you follow as Christ. Ever hear of Oswald Chambers? How about C.S.Lewis? Surely you've heard of him? Have they been influentual in leading people to deeper living in Christ? |
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100 | Is the sin nature a substance or mindset | Phil 3:9 | Ken hepting | 100466 | ||
You might try applying that requirement of those you follow as Christ. | ||||||
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