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741 | Using Love as Jesus | 2 Tim 2:15 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160659 | ||
Hey brother Mark, Let's face it, there is always a difference in our minds. I think that is probably what gets us into trouble sometimes. We can somehow justify to ourselves we are doing the right thing and others are wrong. Some times that is true. However, many times I think it may only be true to us and not others. I'm guilty of this myself. I guess it's easy to identify with something your familiar with :) I can only thank God for giving me the ability to also look at myself now where before I had Christ in my life I never did. It's truly humbling to see how for one has come but how far there is to go (I'm speaking of myself). I meant what I said at the beginning of my post 160568. I posted to you because you didn't belong there and I wanted to bring it to your attention as well as others what everyone else was able to see. Many have found there place in this forum and they work hard to maintain it. Their post always speak to who they really are. Yours do as well and that was not who you are. At least in my opinion it is not representative of who you are. Forgive me for being so bold as to think I can tell you where your place is. That is not what I mean to do. I'm only trying to say where I see you belong as a brother in Christ on this forum and I base that on your post. Even though things are not always brought to light every time they could be on this forum, hopefully people will stop and realize when they post to this forum many people read the post. One may think they are wise in their ways but it may shock them to know they are transparent as glass. The best way I can describe it is sometimes it's like watching a small child holding a sharp two edge sword in a crowded room and no one there to tell them to put it down before someone gets hurt. How many of us are that small child at times? I don't know exactly how to say this so I'm going to just try in hopes that you will take it as something from the heart of a brother in Christ. I do not place myself above anyone else. I have learned early on as a Christian I'm as sinful as anyone else and I continue to struggle with things just like everyone else does. I have more then enough to work on myself to place myself above others. If and when I point something out on this forum like I did recently, it's one to caution a brother and/or two to expose what is taking place. Do I think that makes me more righteous or that I'm above others? Not at all! If I do it out of love and it brings to the attention of all the dangers of what is going on then hopefully it is justified. If I fail in that then I can only blame myself for thinking I could somehow make a difference. Without a doubt, you can count me as a brother in Christ as I also do you! Steve |
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742 | Love on the Forum | 1 Cor 13:12 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160654 | ||
Hey Mark, great post! One that I cannot ignore and must address. "love is not envious; (how does this relate on the forum?)" I have to admit, I do not find myself envious of anyone on the forum or anywhere else for that matter. There was a time in my life I couldn't say that but after receiving Christ as my Lord and Saviour I find myself dumbfounded that I have been blessed in life as much as I have. No sir, I'm a thankful man now days and still amazed. My wife has always been there to show me over the years that you don't have to look long before you see someone much less fortunate then I am and how truly blessed we are. Of course it only took me 21 years of hearing this to understand it :( But I get in now!!! :) "Do we really think that we have the final word, the ultimate truth"? I would say the only truth we have is God's truth. So no, I can't say that I have the final anything nor any truth of my own. "Am I feeling quite good about myself, in how well I handled that question"? I don't post a lot on the forum but when I have it has never been about making myself right and several times out of frustration from what I see. It would be a one sided opinion for me to say if I felt I handled it correctly or not. I guess I would have to leave that up to my brothers and sisters in Christ on this forum. I will say at the times I have posted I felt I was doing the right thing and I tried doing it out of love in hopes to open the eyes of others to what was going on. "Do we think that we cannot profit from the least of our brothers and sisters"? I would have to include myself in the least category. And I would also say that all can profit from the least among our brothers and sisters. After all, Christ our Lord and Savour is with us also. How could we not? "Is there beauty in what I say, in what I post"? Probably not. Never been accused of that before. I guess that's something worth shooting for! "How easy is it for someone to get under my skin"? It's not as easy as it use to be that's for sure. But, in all honesty it's not a hard thing to do either. :) As far as the forum goes, believe it or not it takes a while. I read this forum several times a day but very seldom say anything. But there have been many times I've wanted to. "Do you have to prove to me how rotten you are, or do I just assume it to be true"? Assume it to be true. On my own It goes without saying I am rotten. "Do I get happy when I see someone "stick it" to someone else that I don't like"? There are mixed emotions. But never am I simply happy about it. "How happy am I when someone else shows me my error"? I wouldn't call it happy. At least not at first. But when I have been corrected directly or indirectly (i.e. through a post I read or something else I hear or see) their is a time of disappointment, which turns into a gradual feeling of relief knowing the truth at which point I become happy in the truth. Lets face it, these are good lessons to learn! Some times hard lessons, but good ones! Mark, to all the other questions I would have to say "sometimes". Just so you know, when I see things someone else does that is wrong, I look right back at myself and it doesn't take long to see the long list of things wrong in me. I don't exclude myself from anything. Thanks for the post! It's obvious you took a lot of time thinking about this and preparing the post so I wanted to at least address your questions as honestly as I could regarding myself. Steve |
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743 | Biblical Love is not Worldly Love | 1 John 4:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160604 | ||
Oh, advanced search! Thanks Doc that does narrow it down a bit! How silly of me. I went with the simple search. You wrote: “If we have trouble with the word love, think what difficulties we have in a proper understanding of God, and all the doctrines that necessarily flow from that understanding. Think what difficulties we have with many other definitions.” I couldn’t agree more with your statement Doc! Your post are always revealing! Steve |
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744 | Destroyed for lack of knowledge | Not Specified | humbledbyhisgrace | 160601 | ||
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge by Wayne Jackson Christian Courier: Archives Wednesday, March 3, 2004 http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/lackOfKnowledge.htm I'm not familiar with the Christian Courier but I ran across this article through a web search. Does this ring true to you today? Would you agree with this article? |
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745 | Destroyed for lack of knowledge | Ps 111:10 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160610 | ||
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge by Wayne Jackson Christian Courier: Archives Wednesday, March 3, 2004 http://www.christiancourier.com/archives/lackOfKnowledge.htm I'm not familiar with the Christian Courier but I ran across this article through a web search. Does this ring true to you today? Would you agree with this article? |
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746 | Biblical Love is not Worldly Love | 1 John 4:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160582 | ||
Wow Doc! There appears to be hundreds. Surly you can simplify this for everyone. After all, you said your post was apropos to discussion of respect, courtesy, and love on the forum lately. The simple "Search" takes me all the way back to 2001. |
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747 | Biblical Love is not Worldly Love | 1 John 4:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160579 | ||
Exactly what discussions would that be Doc? It would be interesting to compare this post to those you are referring to. I find it somewhat revealing and would like to compare it to the discussions you are referencing and see just how much more might be revealed. Thanks! Steve |
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748 | Using Love as Jesus | 2 Tim 2:15 | humbledbyhisgrace | 160568 | ||
Mark, there are few people on this forum I have truly gained respect for. Not just because of their intellectual knowledge of scripture, but mostly because they also exemplify a biblical knowledge, a real understanding of what the word of God is all about. They understand it and are trying to live it. At least what I see in their post. To me you are one of those people. There are those on this forum I pray for and in your case I think God for. Having said that, I have to say your post to Jeff is somewhat concerning and contradicting. I only point this out because of the double standards I see constantly applied on this forum and I hate to see you caught up in it. The very things you say to Jeff you are doing yourself. Some of the things you accuse Jeff of you ignore in others in the same thread. You say Jeff "passed judgment on an answer given, that was not given" to him. Are you not doing the same thing brother? How many times has this been done before on this forum and nothing said about it? Including this thread! You say "it would be more fairminded to not open that door?" Yet you open the door yourself and leave the others closed. Was it fair-minded for someone else to open a door as you say, ask a provocative question and you leave that door closed? What's up with that? Why was that not addressed if your going to address Jeff's? What are others to think when they see you question Jeff and you let others who's sole purpose was to provoke slide without question or redirection? Does someone have to state they felt disrespected before someone comes to their aid? If so then shouldn't this practice be applied to everyone on the forum? (Because it's not!) SEE THIS THREAD FOR EXAMPLE! You say "Please keep in mind that we are here to build up, and not to tear down." Can I be so bold as to ask, who are we to build up? Is it only a select few that we agree with or should we include those we disagree with? Steve |
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749 | Your thoughts on 40 Days of Purpose? | 2 Tim 4:2 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158732 | ||
Dear Hank, So well said brother! I second your motion and couldn't agree more. Back to the Bible! No point in looking anywhere else when you have God's truth in His word right at your finger tips. I just wanted to add my Amen to your post. Some times someone will make a post that to me really makes a statement and yours just did! God bless you brother Hank and may all our brothers and sisters in Christ do just what you said, get back to the word of God and leave the rest of the world where it is. |
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750 | ... | Bible general Archive 3 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158506 | ||
Romans 10:9 It's not my agenda. I’m simply a follower of the Christ. My Saviour and your only hope for salvation. Ironic how your own words reveal who you are and what you’re about. This is but one example as all your post speak for themselves, but thanks again for making it easy for all to see your motives. You say “This verse doesnt answer the question. You have your own agenda, I see.” Humm… my own agenda … as in “also” and it conflicts with yours. Interesting! But I understand you well. The truth is hard for you to accept and you need to be able to feel good about where you are at in life. You’re struggling with this because deep down inside you know you’re wrong but unwilling to change. So for you and others like you, there is a need to convince others to see things your way so you can be at peace with it. Problem is, there is no peace and you will never find that peace until you understand Romans 10:9 and accept it. If you were at peace with your beliefs, then you would be comfortable with your own kind. But you find no peace and comfort there. This is why you are drawn to Christians. As long as there are those that understand and hold to the truth, you cannot have peace where you stand. You have the desire and need to change their minds because you feel inside this will justify you and there will be peace in that for you. Sorry but this will never happen! This is why I point you to Romans 10:9. You will never find peace nor will you ever be able to change the truth. My hope is that you will hear God’s words and accept them. In Him you will find the answers and the peace you seek. |
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751 | ... | Bible general Archive 3 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158383 | ||
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752 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158366 | ||
"I did not receive this from man." - Yes you did. Proof is in your patent answers and explanations of scripture. Your answers are not scripture, their scripted. I did not refer to God's abilities, only His actions." - Sure you did, read your own statement. Again, proof that your words are taught and they are scripted. You know not what you say, but only repeat what you are taught. "I did not claim that God needs our help." - Sure you did, read your own statement. Again, proof that your words are taught and they are scripted. You know not what you say, but only repeat what you are taught. "Where has God in His Word directed not to practice "holy laughter"? - See answer below! Galatians 1:6-9 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed! Your holy laughter comes from Rodney Morgan Howard-Browne, a charismatic preacher from South Africa, born June 12, 1961 in Port Elizabeth, South Africa, not from scripture. |
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753 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158340 | ||
Your correct, I do not believe "slain in the spirit" is from God. I do believe the verse you reference is from God. But your conclusion as to it's meaning is not from God. Sorry but there is no evidence in scripture to backup the claim. Interesting that you came to the conclusion on your own what the verse means if you were not taught this from man. Can you give any reasoning for this based on scripture? My guess is no. My guess is also that you have been taught this from man. I base this on your whole argument. It's classical teaching from the type of church you evidently participate in. Your next statement is more proof of that. You say "The reason that these types of manifestations only occur in some churches is that only some churches have enough faith over unbelief in this area. See Matthew 13:58". Proof of my statement is in your patent response. Here is the problem with your statement taught to you by man. It attributes God's abilities to the belief and disbelief of man. God is not limited by our belief or disbelief. We have no affect on His power or abilities in any way. He is God, with us or without us. As a matter of fact, God himself gives each of us the ability to believe. He Himself gives us our faith. Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith". As you can see, you have been taught wrong. You have been taught to pull scripture out of context to create a man made belief and practice. Satan used scripture also when tempting Jesus. But it was used out of context and used improperly and was unacceptable to Christ as it should be to mankind when used improperly. The same principle applies to Gods word in regards to needing mans help as it does to God needing mans help (or belief) to perform His miracles. He does not need nor require our help in any way to be God! You have not explained anything. You have only stated something as fact with no evidence to back it up. Why should someone accept it? Pointing to scripture and making a claim about it that completely contradicts it's teaching does not make it so. To be of God it must be what God's word said not something created from mankind's imagination. So yes, I completely reject your teaching because it is not scriptural. It's not of God and therefore unacceptable as His teaching. You do not honor your Father by playing games with His word. As I've said before, remember who's word it is your talking about. Do not take it upon yourself to use as you see fit. This does not bring Him honor. Remember this, "For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil". Ecclesiastes 12:14 I have no intentions of dishonoring you. You dishonor yourself and the Father. I only disagree with your interpretation of the scripture. Holy Laughter is as real as slain in the spirit. It's real to those that chose to practice things other then what God has directed through His word. Again, you dishonor the Father by your own words. |
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754 | ... | Rom 10:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158309 | ||
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755 | ... | Bible general Archive 3 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158283 | ||
I'm filled with violence? That's an interesting tactic. |
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756 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158282 | ||
I agree it's a lot easier to explain salvation after you have received salvation, yes. But we are are talking about salvation right, not being slain in the spirit? Just want to make sure your not tying the two together. The difference is, you can point to scripture to back up salvation. You cannot point to any scripture that even remotely backs up being slain in the spirit. |
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757 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158281 | ||
If you wish to teach the word of God, it is necessary to remember who's word it is and the responsibility that goes with teaching it. Your approach is to teach and not discuss. You speak as one with authority yet you fall on common sense as your basis for that authority and lack the ability to explain your authoritative position on the word of God. At a minimum you should state that something is your opinion and not state it as fact if you cannot back it up. Maybe you should instead choose to discuss as many of us do and not try to teach. If you were in a position to teach the word of God you would not run from it nor any question ask of you to justify your belief. Are you sure this is your interpretation of the scripture or where you taught this by someone else? Just ask yourself that question. No need to respond. Another good question to ask yourself. Why is it that these type of "manifestations of God" only happening in certain types of churches? Again, no need to respond. I like volleyball also and I know, just like being slain in the spirit, it's not in the bible. But I can't help but wonder if sooner or latter someone out there will not find a verse in the bible that says other wise. As far as musical instruments, I love them. Never was smart enough to figure them out though. But I do love to hear others that have mastered them. Also, know this, I am your brother in Christ. I do not claim to know all there is to know about God or His word. I disagree with others as well to their interpretation of scripture sometime. However, that does not mean we are enemies and that we are not brothers in Christ. But as your brother in Christ, I would caution you to think long and hard about how you use the word of God. I for one believe it is better to keep seeking the truth in it then to sling it out there as if you know the truth without being able to explain it and why you believe it. |
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758 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158273 | ||
Okay, for the sake of discussion, lets say that the proper amount of time had passed between verse 6 and 7 that those of you familiar with the slain in the spirit practice would be convinced they were not faking. Where in this verse does it teach us they were slain in the spirit? Please don't avoid the questions and request for explanation. I'm only asking for you to explain how you get slain in the spirit out of the scriptures that is used to justify the practice. If you believe in this practice, then surly you can explain why and how the rest of us can interpret the meaning as you do. I'm basing my belief on the scriptures as I read and understand them. In none of the scriptures used to back this practice can I find the meaning given to them by those that practice this. So, if you so strongly believe that they do, take the time to explain how you get this interpretation from the scriptures. |
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759 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158256 | ||
The scripture you point to here states, "I am He" which we all know it is Jesus speaking in this verse. They drew back and fell to the ground. They were not slain in the spirit, they were in fear because the very Lord stood before them. Notice that He only spoke. There were no laying on of hands. Are you saying they were slain in the spirit in this verse? If so, what do you make of verse 7 where it says, "Therefore He again asked them, "Whom do you seek?" And they said, "Jesus the Nazarene." If they were slain in the spirit as you say, how then could they immediately respond to His question? You yourself said if anyone is up within 5 minutes they are faking it. What do you make of their ability to speak during their slained state? Also, exactly how do you get "slain in the spirit" out of the verse in the first place? Please explain. In none of the verse I pointed out in an earlier post do I see anything at all that would back up the "slain in the spirit" argument. I see nothing more then a natural and uncontrollable fear of being in the very presence of God. If you believe this is taught in the scriptures please take the time to explain where and give your interpretation of the verses. |
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760 | What is "slain in the spirit"? | 1 Thess 5:21 | humbledbyhisgrace | 158245 | ||
This is my opinion. I'm basing it on the word of God and how I understand it. Take a look at some of the scriptures that are used as an argument for this practice. 2 Chronicles 5:14, Matthew 17:6, Matthew 28:4, John 18:6, Acts 9:4-8, Revelation 1:17 In none of these cases do you find that someone laid hands on or said prayers over anyone that caused them to fall. There are several of these verses that speak to the laying on of hands. But it was done by the Lord and it was to comfort those in fear. Interesting point don't you think? Read each verse and understand what was going on and why they fell to the ground. Your question was, is this biblical. Those that practice this do apparently draw on scripture as the basis for their practice. Or at least they point to scripture. But from the way I read these scriptures and understand them, their claim falls short in my opinion. I think most would agree that if any of us were to actually experience the presence of the Lord as those did in the referenced scriptures we would more then likely fall to our face out of fear and reverence at His very presence and His holiness. I have to question if this is what those that claim to be slain in the spirit are experiencing. |
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