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61 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166645 | ||
Sam, do you believe that if you remember to confess a sin, but don’t, that you will go to hell? | ||||||
62 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166640 | ||
Jesus said "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32 If you’re a sinner, guess what, you’re not alone. Jesus didn’t come down to this earth to die on the cross for “good” people, but for sinners. Does that mean that we go on sinning? No. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. David was referred to as “a man after God’s own heart.” Yet he committed adultery and topped it off with murder. I’m not justifying those things, but I’m saying that God can forgive those sins. And He WILL, if you CONFESS them. God Loves Sinners. If He didn’t we ALL be in trouble. Ocelot |
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63 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166594 | ||
Kalos, I retract my last post. I did some reading of some of your earlier posts and it turns out that I answered my own question. And then I did some more reading and it turns out that I’m about to propagate the very debate that is mentioned in the “do not” list. Therefore, I retract my last post. Ocelot |
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64 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166578 | ||
That last line should read: I was simply approaching that QUESTION from another angle. My apologies |
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65 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166577 | ||
So answer me this, kalos. Do you believe that God has CHOSEN some individuals to burn in the lake of fire? “Sorry Bob, (my apologies to anybody named Bob) but you’re predestined to burn in the lake of fire.” “But I want to be saved!” “Too bad, God said no.” If you believe this, aren’t you the lucky one. I do not believe that God has chosen to murder anybody. I believe that salvation is open to ALL people. And THAT’S the issue I was addressing. If you disagree with me, then you serve a pretty mean and angry god. If you agree with me, then what on earth are we arguing about? I was not talking about the “elect”. I realize that the verse was. I was simply approaching that verse from another angle. Ocelot |
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66 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166569 | ||
Dear Doc, I wasn’t trying to do an in-depth word study, but to simply approach the question from a different angle. I wasn’t sure if Huron was asking if John 15:16 meant that God “predestined” some to salvation while He “predestined” others to destruction. I just figured I’d cover that base. Ocelot |
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67 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166563 | ||
I agree with Doc. I would also add that Christ’s choosing is not limited to those who are saved. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” And again 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for ANY to perish but for ALL to come to repentance.” Christ chooses all, but not all choose Christ. Ocelot |
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68 | how many unforgiven sins are there? | Eph 1:7 | Ocelot | 166496 | ||
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. | ||||||
69 | The Fall of Satan | Rev 12:4 | Ocelot | 166233 | ||
You said: “I think you may have made the same mistake I did, which is to assume that the fall of Satan was a physical fall from heaven, but I am now learning that the doctrine of this forum is actually that of metaphorical fall from a state of perfection/grace.” I actually believe it was both a physical fall and a fall from grace. I believe the physical part of the fall was more of a getting kicked out of heaven fall. Maybe I just misunderstood what you’re saying. Ocelot |
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70 | The Fall of Satan | Rev 12:4 | Ocelot | 166229 | ||
Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place” Just because Revelation 1:1 says this does not mean that God’s not allowed to do any recapping later on. Just a thought Ocelot |
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71 | The Fall of Satan | Rev 12:4 | Ocelot | 166220 | ||
It would seem logical to me, (if you want opinions) that Satan fell BEFORE tempting Eve. I don’t see an un-fallen angel tempting humanity. Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, Rev 12:8 and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Revelation 12:9 says that Satan was cast down to earth. Since the Earth was created in six literal days, I would see the fall happening AFTER the creation. So there’s my take on. Sometime after creation Lucifer (Satan) is deceived by his pride, there was a war in heaven, and Satan was cast down to the earth. Shortly after that (I have no idea how long “shortly” would be) Satan tempts Eve to sin. Ocelot P.S. Since this certainly isn't a docrinal issue, I hope my stating of opinion doesn't start an argument : ) |
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72 | Does Satan Really Exist? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166199 | ||
Regarding Ezekiel 28. There is something in the Bible that is know as “duel prophecy”. Here are a couple of examples. Mal 4:5 "Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. Mal 4:6 "He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse." Here we have an example of a duel prophecy. And here’s the proof: Matt 17:10 And His disciples asked Him, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?" Matt 17:11 And He answered and said, "Elijah is coming and will restore all things; Matt 17:12 but I say to you that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." Matt 17:13 Then the disciples understood that He had spoken to them about John the Baptist. In Matthew 17:11 Jesus says “Elijah is coming and will restore all things…” but then He says “but I say to you that Elijah already came”. Two prophecies in one. One applies to John the Baptist, and another to someone “before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD.” Another duel prophecy is that of the destruction of the temple at the hands of the Romans, and the second coming of Christ, found in Matthew chapter 24. Ezekiel 28, IS talking about the king of Tyre, and yet simultaneously about the fall of Lucifer. Ocelot |
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73 | Does Satan Exist Part III | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166190 | ||
Mark, I agree with you on the issue of insanity. Here’s another angle. Bear in mind that some of this is just theory. Lucifer’s downfall was based on PRIDE. And what other sin could cause a holy angel to fall? Pride is unlike all other sins. First, pride is a “hidden” sin, in that it is likely the hardest to detect by the person suffering from it. It may also be difficult for others to detect. Not that I’m saying God can’t detect it. But then, pride’s nature demands that when confronted about its very existence, pride would be offended. And if a rebuke was not taken with humility, pride would only tend to grow, not diminish. Pride is the most sinister of sins. Though not as “destructive” as some other sins, it is by the hardest sin to overcome. It declares, “I am in the right!”, “I am being mistreated!”. As for God’s Sovereignty and Omnipotence, God values freedom of choice. Hence the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Before the fall, there was only one spot on Earth where Adam and Eve were susceptible to sin. Only one spot on the entire planet where Satan had access to the first couple. And what’s more, God warned Adam and Eve about it. Yet He would not take from them their freedom of choice. I believe that the freedom of choice was given to the angels in heaven. Yet their perfection and closeness to God all but guaranteed that sin would never rear its ugly head. This is just my opinion, but I believe that the only chance sin had to enter heaven, was through pride. One would assume that the closer one was to God, the less likely to fall. The closer to perfection, the more “sin-proof” one was. But pride bypasses that. In fact, pride can use perfection to spawn itself, in that if someone takes their focus off God and looks at their own perfection, they suddenly say, “Hey, look at me. I’m perfect.” Ezek 28:17 "Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor. Ocelot P.S. The devil doesn’t care which ditch you fall into. If you worship him he likes that. If you disbelieve in him, he likes that just as well. |
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74 | can I eat shellfish? | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 166114 | ||
Hi Doc. Ocelot here. You used Colossians 2:16-17 to prove your point. Here it is Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. (Colossians 2:16-17) But Colossians 2:16-17 is a reference to the sacrificial system, and not to what is appropriate to eat. Read Leviticus 23:24-37. Lev 23:37 'These are the appointed times of the LORD which you shall proclaim as holy convocations, to present offerings by fire to the LORD--burnt offerings and grain offerings, sacrifices and drink offerings, each day's matter on its own day— Notice that the word “meat” used in Colossians 2:16-17 is the Greek word “brosis”. If you’d do a quick word study you’d find out that that word simply means “food”. With that knowledge, it becomes very clear that Col 2:16-17 is dealing with the sacrificial system, and food and drink offerings made to The Lord. I’m going to skip 1 Cor. 8:8 since it’s so vague. You then used 1 Timothy 4:3-5. Here it is: Forbidding marriage and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (1 Timothy 4:3-5) Now let’s apply some logic to that verse. Would you say that God allows the eating of human flesh? Of course not. And yet man is a “creature”. The word “creature” here, is the Greek word “ktisma”, don’t ask me to pronounce it. It simply means “an original formation”, or “product (created thing)”. Now notice verse 5. “For it is sanctified by the WORD OF GOD, and prayer.” What food is sanctified by the word of God? Ocelot |
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75 | Ephs 4:30; 1:13-14 | 2 Tim 1:12 | Ocelot | 165803 | ||
Here’s a little news for you. David was saved by the blood of Jesus, not by the blood of lambs, and certainly not by keeping the commandments. Just like every son of Adam and daughter of Eve since The Fall. If David, or anybody before Christ could have been saved by works, then heaven will be a lot emptier. You see, Christianity is not a new religion. Christ is not a new God. True Christianity is the continuation of the Jewish religion. Just as the Jewish religion was the continuation of the Patriarchs religion. And the Patriarchs religion was a continuation of Noah’s religion, and Noah’s religion was a continuation of Adam’s religion. There’s no “new” way to be saved. Christ has always been The Way. Secondly, God has a limit. He will not go against our Freedom of Choice. If I, who am saved, choose to be lost (may it never be), then He will not stop me. If we don’t have freedom of choice, then this whole sin thing has been just a big experiment by God. Like a child with an ant hill and a magnifying glass. But God is not that way. The, dear Mark, though you may be saved can choose to be lost. And God will honor your choice. |
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76 | Ephs 4:30; 1:13-14 | 2 Tim 1:12 | Ocelot | 165800 | ||
So what you’re saying is that if a born again Christian, a leader amongst God’s people becomes a murderer, an adulterer, that they’re still safe? Rev 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying. Now you might say “Well that person never really had a Working Faith”. Didn’t he? I think that he did. His name was David and he was called a man after God’s own heart. One of the sins listed for those who’s place is in the lake of fire is murder. Another is immorality. Both of which David was guilty of. Both of which David had to be forgiven. Now David will be in heaven, we know that. But if he had not confessed and repented? How about king Saul? He was chosen by God. And yet he died a murderer of priests amongst many other sins. According to the two verses above, he’s doomed. David’s little romp with Bathsheba and the resulting murder of Uriah prove that a follower of God CAN lose salvation. And you can’t argue with the Bible. Revelation 22:15 says that murderers will have their place in the lake of fire. Salvation can be lost. |
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77 | Ephs 4:30; 1:13-14 | 2 Tim 1:12 | Ocelot | 165792 | ||
1 Cor 9:27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified. That's Paul talking about himself. Don't you think that Paul had a Working Faith? |
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78 | RAPTURE | Bible general Archive 3 | Ocelot | 165579 | ||
Hi Mark. I agree with Kalos. The “Rapture”, will be a very loud, very visible event. Scripture plainly teaches that. Rev 1:7 BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and EVERY EYE will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. Matt 24:27 "For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matt 24:30 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. Matt 24:31 "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. 2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. 2 Pet 3:12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! As for 2 Thess. 2:1,2 "2 Thess 2:1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 Thess 2:2 that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come." I would say that these verses are an argument for the exact opposite of a SECRET rapture. Paul is warning the Christians not to believe in such a way. As for the “Thief in the Night”. The “Thief in the Night” verses all pertain to the unexpectedness of Christ’s return. He is however, a thief with a trumpet. And when He returns, the elements will melt. If you or I were left behind I think we’d notice that. As for who said what first about a “secret” rapture, it doesn’t seem to matter. The Bible says it’s not secret. Ocelot |
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79 | Mark, am I missing something | Galatians | Ocelot | 165360 | ||
Truth has never been popular. In the time of Noah, only eight people boarded the ark. During the time of Elijah only 7000 people in Israel and Judah, God’s chosen people, had not bowed the knee to Baal. In the time of Christ, God’s own people crucified Their Savior. During the dark ages the “Christian Majority” burned many thousands at the stake for possessing knowledge of the truth. Ocelot |
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80 | Mark, am I missing something | Galatians | Ocelot | 165355 | ||
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