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NASB | John 15:16 "You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 15:16 "You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you and I have appointed and placed and purposefully planted you, so that you would go and bear fruit and keep on bearing, and that your fruit will remain and be lasting, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name [as My representative] He may give to you. |
Subject: Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? |
Bible Note: So answer me this, kalos. Do you believe that God has CHOSEN some individuals to burn in the lake of fire? “Sorry Bob, (my apologies to anybody named Bob) but you’re predestined to burn in the lake of fire.” “But I want to be saved!” “Too bad, God said no.” If you believe this, aren’t you the lucky one. I do not believe that God has chosen to murder anybody. I believe that salvation is open to ALL people. And THAT’S the issue I was addressing. If you disagree with me, then you serve a pretty mean and angry god. If you agree with me, then what on earth are we arguing about? I was not talking about the “elect”. I realize that the verse was. I was simply approaching that verse from another angle. Ocelot |