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61 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64677 | ||
I will do the search you suggest. It looks like it would be a good study. You say, "He makes choices in His dealings with men and with nations." I would agree to a point. God dealt with both men and nations on a grand scale in the old testament. These days I am unsure of His involvement with nations. I am more sure of His involvement with an individuals soul. Nations are made up of people and each person possesses a soul. This is the treasure God wants. I believe His involvment with nations, per se, would be secondary. I do not question your sincerity or faith but in the passages I listed we see two things. God shows no partiality towards man and he has provided salvation for all men, not just a select few (you can define "few" however you like). You have more control over your destiny than you think. Take Adam and Eve for instance. Did they not have a choice whether or not to eat of the forbidden fruit? Of course they did. They were tempted, much like as we are, and rather than take the way of escape provided to them, which was obedience to God's word, they chose to sin. Each individual has this same choice. |
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62 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64643 | ||
The parable follows, Matt 13:24 Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 "But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. 26 "But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. 27 "The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, 'Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?' 28 "And he said to them, 'An enemy has done this!' The slaves *said to him, 'Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?' 29 "But he said, 'No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 'Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn." The explanation of the parable, Matt 13:36 Then He left the crowds and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him and said, "Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field." 37 And He said, "The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, 38 and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels. 40 "So just as the tares are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age. 41 "The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 "Then THE RIGHTEOUS WILL SHINE FORTH AS THE SUN in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear. I do not agree with an "invisible church" and a "visible" church in the sense you have portrayed it. Yes, it can be invisible because it consists of spiritual things and yes, it can be visible because if a group of Christians gather together they would represent a segment of the church (Mt 18:20). I also do not agree, based on scripture above, that "all congregations (generally speaking) include both wheat and tares". In the explanation Jesus provides of the parable wheat (good seed) are "the children of the kingdom" and the tares are "the children of the wicked one". Do you mean to say that all congregations of the church have children of the wicked one in them? As to your comment "Election by God of those who shall be saved is the determining factor of salvation" I attach a post I just finished. The passages of scripture listed below span the entire period of the writing of the bible, from Moses to John. All of them teach that salvation is for all who want it because God created, creates, and will create ALL mankind, and would rather that NONE would perish. Man's freedom of choice is the only thing between him and his God. Deut 10:17 "For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. 2 Chr 19:7 "Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe." Job 34:19 Who shows no partiality to princes Nor regards the rich above the poor, For they all are the work of His hands? Prov 18:5 To show partiality to the wicked is not good, Nor to thrust aside the righteous in judgment. Prov 24:23 These also are sayings of the wise. To show partiality in judgment is not good. Prov 28:21 To show partiality is not good, Because for a piece of bread a man will transgress. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. Acts 10:34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, Rom 2:11 For there is no partiality with God. Gal 2:6 But from those who were of high reputation (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)--well, those who were of reputation contributed nothing to me. Eph 6:9 And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him. 1 Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, 2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. |
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63 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64630 | ||
The passages of scripture listed below span the entire period of the writing of the bible, from Moses to John. All of them teach that salvation is for all who want it because God created, creates, and will create ALL mankind, and would rather that NONE would perish. Man's freedom of choice is the only thing between him and his God. Deut 10:17 "For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe. 2 Chr 19:7 "Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe." Job 34:19 Who shows no partiality to princes Nor regards the rich above the poor, For they all are the work of His hands? Prov 18:5 To show partiality to the wicked is not good, Nor to thrust aside the righteous in judgment. Prov 24:23 These also are sayings of the wise. To show partiality in judgment is not good. Prov 28:21 To show partiality is not good, Because for a piece of bread a man will transgress. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. Acts 10:34 Opening his mouth, Peter said: "I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, Rom 2:11 For there is no partiality with God. Gal 2:6 But from those who were of high reputation (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)--well, those who were of reputation contributed nothing to me. Eph 6:9 And masters, do the same things to them, and give up threatening, knowing that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no partiality with Him. 1 Tim 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, 2 Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. 1 John 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. Amen, Amen, Amen! |
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64 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64626 | ||
What about John's baptism? It was a water baptism unto repentance (Mk 1:4, Lk 3:3, Acts 13:24, Acts 19:4). Jesus's disciples continued to baptize with or without John the baptist (John 4:1,2). Until Christ died, the "ritual of Christian baptism" was of no effect because baptism into Christ is for the remission of sin. Christ died for the sin of man and we could not be baptized for remission of sin until he did die hence a baptism of repentance to "prepare the way" Is 40:3, Mt 3:3, Mk 1:3, Lk 3:4, Jn 1:23). Once Christ died it became necessary for those who had only been baptized for repentance to be baptized again, for the remission of sins (Acts 19:1-7). Those that have never been baptized are baptized into Christ. This passage in Acts also supports the truth that baptism into Christ is necessary, hence Paul "re-baptized", if you will, these disciples he found in Ephesus. With the exception of the example of Cornelius, it is also evidence that the Holy Spirit is not received until after baptism, and then, only when an Apostle would lay hands upon the individual. Since there are no more Apostles, the gifts of the Holy Spirit (speaking in tongues, interpreting, miraculous healing, prophesying, etc.) can no longer be passed from one individual (an Apostle) to another. A person receiving a gift from an Apostle did not have the power to transfer gifts, so after the last Apostle died so did the power to transfer gifts. After the last recipient of a gift died, no more gifts. 1 Cor 13:8 But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent them Peter and John, 15 who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For He had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they began laying their hands on them, and they were receiving the Holy Spirit. 18 Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was bestowed through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money, 19 saying, "Give this authority to me as well, so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit." 20 But Peter said to him, "May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! The passage from Corinthians clearly shows that the gifts of the Holy Spirit will cease. Some say the "that which is perfect" in following verses is on one hand, the 'perfect' written word of God, which would mean gifts have already ceased, while others say that the "that which is perfect" is Jesus at his second coming. The passage from Acts clearly shows that it was necessary for an Apostle to perform the laying on of hands in order administer or transfer gifts to other men. It is also clear that baptism into "the Lord" is a prerequisite. |
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65 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64574 | ||
Actually he made the initial accusation and I rebutted with tact, using his own words. An "elder" denotes maturity, responsibility, knowledge, understanding, patience, etc., etc. I did come across defensively but defense is a reaction to offense, if you know what I mean. I am praying and taking two steps back so that I can reassess my purpose. Again thank you for your brotherly kindness! |
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66 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64573 | ||
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67 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64572 | ||
Thank you for your kind words. I confess that my eagerness to "preach" got the better of me and I have committed to changing my attitude and behavior. Only the power of the word can change mens hearts, if they want to be changed. You said, "I would say if you try to push anyone to believe the Church of Christ, or anyother church for that matter, is the only TRUE church, you will not enjoy the forun and this will waste your time." This is what I don't understand. Only one church is spoke of in the New Testament, that which Christ died for. Acts 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood." This passage speaks to the elders of the church at Ephesus and mentions the church of God, but we must realize that it was Christ's blood that purchased the church and that he and God are one. We read of no other church but that one. We have all we need written in the holy book of God. No man's interpretation of scripture will nullify the truth of God's word. John 17:17 "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth." 1 Cor 4:6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other. 1 Cor 4:7 For who regards you as superior? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? Rev 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; Rev 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. What do we have now that we haven't already received from Christ, the Apostles, and the rest of the men inspired by God to record His holy word. In some cases we have "doctrines" that have been added to the word of God, in others we have doctrines that take away from the word of God. In either case, we will receive a just reward. |
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68 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64545 | ||
I have no doctrine to impose. I have tried at all times to support my position with God's word. This is the only doctrine we have. The verses I cited were to support the fact that Jesus is with God. Elijah and Enoch are two individuals who never experienced physical death, but Jesus says in John 3:13, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven" so even they are not in heaven, yet. What was your purpose for citing 2 Cor. 5:6-8? |
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69 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64542 | ||
My day is complete! I have actually learned something. The passage in Luke does not indicate it but John 19:32,33 says, "So the soldiers came, and broke the legs of the first man and of the other who was crucified with Him; but coming to Jesus, when they saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs. To answer your question, yes the thief died under the new covenant, but was forgiven under the old. I understand where you are coming from. Hebrews 9:11-17 supports this position. "But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. FOR A TESTAMENT IS IN FORCE AFTER MEN ARE DEAD (emphasis mine), since it has no power at all while the testator lives. Jesus told the thief he would be with Jesus in paradise while under the old covenant. The thief was in a state of redemption at that point. Jesus died, the new covenant was in effect, the thief died. If the thief was already in a state of redemption was it necessary for him to be redeemed again? |
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70 | FTimA, Why cite English dictionary? | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64540 | ||
Thank you Searcher, I already use this. I like it. | ||||||
71 | Why didn't God make people to love him? | Genesis | FTimA | 64538 | ||
God gave his creation man the power of choice. He could choose to obey God or satisfy his own (free) will. I pulled the text below from "Thru the Bible Commentary". Enjoy it for what its worth. These are the five “I wills” of Lucifer. He was setting his will over against the will of God. This is sin in embryo. This is the evolution of evil. There is no evolution of man, but there is evolution of sin. It began by a creature setting his will against the will of God. As a free moral agent, the creature must be allowed to do this. It is nonsense to talk about a creature who has a free moral will, who can do anything he wants to, but is restricted in his movements in a certain area. Lucifer had a free will. This is man’s original sin: “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isa. 53:6). Murder is sin, not just because God says it is, but because it is contrary to the will and character of God. Anything that is contrary to the character and will of God is sin, regardless of what it is. I think that some people can even displease God by going to church. Imagine little bitty puffed-up creature man, who says to God, “I won’t do what You want me to do. I am going to do it my way.” That is exactly what man is saying today. Well, friend, you are not going to do things your way, because God’s will is going to prevail in the final analysis. Therefore, the prayer of all God’s people should be, “… Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven” (Matt. 6:10). Anything contrary to His will is sin, regardless of what it is. The sin of Satan was overweening pride. He did not go out and get drunk, and he didn’t steal anything. He went against God’s will. He was created as an angel of light; he was the “son of the morning,” a perfect being. He was given a free moral will—he could choose what he wanted. But he was lifted up—so lifted up by pride that he set his will against the will of God. It wasn’t the purpose of Satan to be different from God; he wanted to be like God. In other words, he wanted to be God. He put his will above the will of God, and any creature who does that puts himself in the place of God. There are many men like Lucifer today. They put their wills above the will of God and take His place. That is what sin is all about in the human family. There are only two ways: God’s way and man’s way. That is what the Lord Jesus Christ meant when He said, “… I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” (John 14:6). My friend, you live in God’s universe today. You breathe His air and enjoy His sunshine. He never sends you a bill for either one or for the life He furnishes. You are His creature. You owe Him a great deal. You are to obey Him. In his natural state, man is unable to obey God; that is why we have to come to Him through the Lord Jesus Christ as lost sinners. Then we are given a new nature. That is what it means to be born again. J. Vernon McGee, Thru the Bible commentary [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997, c1981 by J. Vernon McGee. |
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72 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64535 | ||
To save their soul from death does not refer to eternal death which the unbeliever will suffer, but rather physical death which can be a result of persistent disobedience and dishonor to the testimony of Christ. Does a soul experience physical death? "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" Be sober, be vigilant, be baptized? How are the first two not a work and the third is? |
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73 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64532 | ||
Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. Acts 2:21 'AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.' Acts 15:1 Some men came down from Judea and began teaching the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are." Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED." Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; All of the passages listed above tell us what we must do to be saved. Which ones are we supposed to do and which ones, if any, are we not? What process do you use to determine this? |
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74 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64499 | ||
What about the thief on the cross? This question is raised all the time. My question to you and all who may read this is what covenant was the thief under, the old or the new? Jesus was still alive wasn't he? As long as Jesus remained alive the old covenant was still in effect. This is why it wasn't necessary for the thief to be baptized. |
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75 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64495 | ||
Actually, I believe that nobody is "with God" yet, save Jesus (Luke 22:69, Acts 2:33, Acts 5:31, Acts 7:55, Acts 7:56, Rom 8:34, Col 3:1, Heb 10:12, Heb 12:2, 1 Pet 3:22) Heb 9:27 And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment Those that have died since Abel are in some sort of "spiritual" realm waiting for God's judgment. You use the term Christian too loosely. To me a Christian is a true believer and nothing else. To me a true believer accepts God's word for what it says and responds in the way prescribed. I don't understand what you mean by "Does anyone know the exact moment of earthly death?" Christians do not have to work for salvation but they must obey the commands of the Lord. God's word already says there will be a sparse heaven. Matthew 7:13,14 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it." Your assurance is based on the word of God YOU CHOOSE to base it on. Look at the entire word and make application where necessary. Give me one example where someone in the bible just "repents of sins, asks forgiveness, and receives the gift of salvation, please. Lastly, thank you for your prayers. I appreciate them. |
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76 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64493 | ||
"Sin in a Christian's life does not put them outside the family of God, but clouds our daily fellowship with God and with fellow believers." God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. (1 Jn 1:5) If God was able to tolerate sin there would have been no need for us to have sin remitted. You say in one sentence, "Sin...does not put them outside the family of God" and in another, "they are prevented from carrying on sinning and away from God". Either sin separates us from God or it doesn't. We cannot have it both ways. |
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77 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64491 | ||
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78 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64489 | ||
I have to say AMEN to 1 Corinthians 14:33. God is not the author of confusion but of peace. Saying man is the author of confusion, in my opinion, is an overgeneralization. I will also make an assumption. I am assuming that whenever you see the word "spirit" you automatically attribute it to the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:4-6 states, "There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. This passage of scripture taken as a whole confirms that there is unity in God's plan. One body - the church which Christ died for. In Matthew 16:16 Peter makes the great confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior. The Jewish people had anxiously awaited his coming and he was finally here. The tragedy is that not many accepted him. Regardless, in Matthew 16:18, Jesus said that, upon Peter's confession, he would build his church. Hence, the church of Christ. When Christ died on the cross, the door to his church was opened. The foundation was laid. On the day of Pentecost the first believers were added to it (at what point the apostles were baptized into Christ is not revealed, but it would have had to be after Christ's death). One Spirit - Yes, there is only one Holy Spirit. Constraints of the forum do not allow me to fully expound on a study of "spirit". But just in some quick scanning of passages I found the Holy Spirit, unclean spirits, and the spirit of man. I would be more than happy to do a study on the spirits in the bible but it would take some time. Let me just say that a student of the bible must be careful how they understand the use of the word spirit in some cases. One hope - the hope of heaven? eternal life? salvation? spiritual life with God? redemption? One Lord - Jesus Christ One Faith - this, like one spirit, could become an indepth study. Off the top of my head I would compare this to one belief. Faith is something a person believes in is it not? Faith is much more than just believing though. One baptism - Now wait a minute! How can there be one baptism? I read about the baptism of John, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the baptism for the remission of sin. Which is it? Which one adds us to the "one church"? What must I do to be saved? Repent and be baptized for the remission of sin. If my sin is remitted I am saved, if not I am not. If I am saved I am added to the church. All of this is supported by Acts 2. Romans 6:3-6 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; To answer your question "Are you suggesting that the Spirit is the one who physically immerses us into water? No, the Holy Spirit does not physically immerse us in the water, but the spirit of faith in Christ Jesus acts upon us causing us to obey the commandment of baptism. Again, Acts 2, those that heard Peter's words were "pricked in their hearts", they were convicted and convinced that they had sinned by crucifying Jesus, and responded by asking "What must we do". In a previous post dated 10/21 I went through a number of examples of conversion supporting the necessity of baptism. The baptism in Ephesians 4 is water baptism into Jesus Christ for the remission of sin. |
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79 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64486 | ||
How many churches are mentioned in the Bible? The churches of Asia (1 Corinthians 16:9) The churches of Christ (Romans 16:16) The church of Ephesus (Revelation 2:1) The churches of Galatia (1 Corinthians 16:1) The church of the firstborn (Hebrews 12:23) The churches of the Gentiles (Romans 16:4) The church of God (Acts 20:28, 1 Corinthians 1:2, 10:32, 11:22, 15:9, Galatians 1:13, 1 Timothy 3:5) The churches of Judea (Galatians 1:22) The church of the Laodecians (Colossians 4:16, Revelation 3:3) The churches of Macedonia (2 Corinthians 8:1) The church of the Thessalonians (1 Thessalonians 1:1) The word church appears in the New Testament approximately 108 times. These are just a few. The key though is that in every occurrence it refers to the same one, the one body purchased by the blood of Christ. In Acts 20:28, Paul says to the elders of the church at Ephesus, “Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.” Where do you find "Presbyterian, Methodist, Assemblies of God, Lutheran, Catholic, etc." in the bible? |
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80 | "ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED"!!! | Matt 22:37 | FTimA | 64485 | ||
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