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61 | world vs age | Gen 1:5 | BMyers | 216010 | ||
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62 | Where is this date from? | Gen 7:12 | BMyers | 215032 | ||
Thanks, for explaining. You may want to do some additional research, due to the flood date has been placed between 2,000 and 3,000 BC by some Biblical scholars (some even go older). I will not pretend to understand it all, but I know from the articles I read, that the estimates (fancy word for guess) on the flood date was centered around dates of the Exodus and other events that they can tie to known event dates and then they work back from those dates. I checked my ESV Study Bible, NKJV Chronological Bible, and NASB Zondervan Study Bible which all had dates of 2,000BC or older. (Remembering these are just educated guesses.) Maybe someone that has spent time studying this topic of dating could explain better than I, but it is an interesting topic (I've only read a little on Biblical dating (not talking about the boy-girl dating either)), not only dating of the flood, but many Biblical events. Brad |
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63 | Place where Bible stood still one hour | Joshua | BMyers | 215028 | ||
According to the scripture, it appears to me that it may have stood still for longer than an "hour". If I'm reading it correctly, it appears to be stating that it was a whole day, not an hour. So, once again, I'm not sure that it was an hour, I think it was longer. Please give me scriptural support that it was only an hour. Thanks, Brad |
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64 | What does the Bible say about gambling? | Ex 20:17 | BMyers | 214695 | ||
I'm sure John will answer in greater detail, but the main issue of gambling is the fact of stewardship. Are you being a good steward of what God has blessed you with? Along with the central issue of stewardship, what about the effect it has on the community and/or the individual. I will give you a prime example, we have a gambling boat in the neighboring community. A lady went and gambled six thousand dollars (one article says eight thousand) of her money away. She then realized what she had done and instead of confusing to her husband, she went and shot herself. She survived and then told the police she had been robbed. (The articles are in The Telegraph for Alton, IL). This is one of hundreds of stories about how gambling has destroyed a person/family. Are we called to be our brothers/sister keeper? Romans 14 I still say the main reason that gambling is wrong, is that one is failing to be a good steward with what God has given them. Brad |
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65 | What does the Bible say about gambling? | Ex 20:17 | BMyers | 214692 | ||
I would like to add, are you being a good steward of God's money when you gamble? Matthew 25:14-30 Brad |
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66 | Elaborate on last days timeframe | Heb 1:2 | BMyers | 213343 | ||
Doc, still working (bummer to be at work on Saturday, but thankful for job), do you believe in all the gifts of the Holy Spirit and that they are still active today? My understanding from previous conversations, were no. The classification of this is cessationism, which there are various levels and as you have pointed out maybe it isn't various levels of cessationism, but of continuationism. Saying that a person is going outside of what the Bible teaches by believing in the gift of tongues or prophecy, I believe, this is where we disagree. Discussing the gifts of the Holy Spirit, I don't believe is violating the terms of use of the forum. Just because some don't believe they are still active, doesn't mean they are right, especially since the debate centers on the very scriptures themselves and how one understands 1 Corinthians 13:8 and "perfect". Unfortunately brief notes don’t always allow full explanations, purpose wasn’t to offend, but point out different view point that is scripturally based. Brad |
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67 | Elaborate on last days timeframe | Heb 1:2 | BMyers | 213336 | ||
Not everyone agrees on the issue for looking for guidance outside of scripture (Holy Spirit). When you use the term "we" I'm assuming that you are reffering to the mindset of Doc and yourself, which I believe is Cessationists, but not all Christians believe in this theology. I can say after reading books that Doc has recommended and others have recommended, that I'm not of that mindset and still feel that the Holy Spirit can and does prompt us and guide us, but never contradicts scripture (this could be a very long post, but at work right now). Brad |
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68 | Elaborate on last days timeframe | Heb 1:2 | BMyers | 213335 | ||
Not everyone agrees on the issue for looking for guidance outside of scripture (Holy Spirit). When you use the term "we" I'm assuming that you are reffering to the mindset of Doc and yourself, which I believe is Cessationists, but not all Christians believe in this theology. I can say after reading books that Doc has recommended and others have recommended, that I'm not of that mindset and still feel that the Holy Spirit can and does prompt us and guide us, but never contradicts scripture (this could be a very long post, but at work right now). Brad |
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69 | Trees | Jer 6:6 | BMyers | 212350 | ||
Jer 10:1 Hear the word that the LORD speaks to you, O house of Israel. Jer 10:2 Thus says the LORD: "Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, Jer 10:3 for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. Jer 10:4 They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Jer 10:5 Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good." Jer 10:6 There is none like you, O LORD; you are great, and your name is great in might. Jer 10:7 Who would not fear you, O King of the nations? For this is your due; for among all the wise ones of the nations and in all their kingdoms there is none like you. Jer 10:8 They are both stupid and foolish; the instruction of idols is but wood! |
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70 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 212032 | ||
Thanks for the reply. I haven't finished reading all the books that I had ordered, but so far, Dr. Oss and Dr. Deere both have made good arguments against the cessation of Spiritual Gifts and that they should still be alive and active in the believer today. I haven't had a chance to read Dr. Fee's books yet and have only partially finished Dr. Deere's book before my wife took it and has started reading it. I've been really thankful that this discussion has come up on the forum, because of it I have been challenged to dig deeper and study harder and I prayer that this has happened to others that have either posted or just read through the topic. Brad |
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71 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 211147 | ||
Doc, You asked for me to list my reference materials. I read articles in the following dictionaries: Nelson New Illustrated Bible Dictionary Holman Illustrated Bible Dictionary Bridgeway Bible Dictionary I looked up some terms in the Smith’s Dictionary and the Unger’s Bible Dictionary. I read about the verses we have been discussing in the following commentaries: Matthew Henry Commentary New International Bible Commentary MacArthur Bible Commentary Expositor’s Bible Commentary Believer’s Bible Commentary JFB Commentary I don’t have the links to all the different websites I went to for articles. I just typed in the topic and searched. I would say about 2/3s of the websites I went to on both sides of the discussions were not worth looking at. They made nothing but emotional arguments with very little actual content. When I first posted in this topic, I had no idea this was such a hot button item. Yet, I’m glad I did post. I feel when a topic challenges me to truly look at my beliefs and research, pray, and pray some more, this has to be a good thing. I’m not done researching, actually anxiously awaiting the arrival of my books to do some more reading. Just wanted to say thanks Doc and others, in my own strange way. Even though I still don’t agree with Doc, it is nice to have my views respectfully challenged. I may never agree with Doc on this topic, but you have driven me further into Word and educated me on topics as a Christian I should be aware. Your brother-in-Christ Brad Pro 27:17 Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another. |
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72 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 211102 | ||
Start out with, here is the best description of the different Cessationism view points that I have come across. Concentric Cessationists believe that the miraculous gifts have indeed ceased in the mainstream church and evangelized areas, but appear in unreached areas as an aid to spreading the Gospel. Classical cessationists assert that the "sign gifts" such as prophecy, healing and speaking in tongues ceased with the apostles and the finishing of the canon of Scripture. They only served as launching pads for the spreading of the Gospel; as affirmations of God's revelation. However, these cessationists do believe that God still occasionally does miracles today, such as healings or divine guidance, so long as these "miracles" do not accredit new doctrine or add to the New Testament canon. Full Cessationists argue that along with no miraculous gifts, there are also no miracles performed by God today. This argument, of course, turns on one's understanding of the term, "miracle." Consistent Cessationists believe that not only were the miraculous gifts only for the establishment of the first-century church, but the so-called five-fold ministry found in Eph. 4 was also a transitional institution (i.e., There are no more apostles or prophets, but also no more pastors, teachers, or evangelists). I wish I could take credit for the categories, but I can't, they are taken from a websites (which appears to either be copied from or to Wikipedia). Comparing the categories, with what information I have found online seem to line up with the categories (except the last one, I haven't found a site yet that says prechers and teachers are no longer, just apostles or prophets). I was surprised to see that several didn't believe that all the gifts have ceased, just tongues, knowledge’s, and prophesy. I'm waiting for my books to come, the one recommend here in this discussion and another by Dr. Gordon Fee. Have to get the little one for bed, but hopefully this will give you something to chew on. Brad |
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73 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 211079 | ||
I have actually found this whole discussion very interesting. The more I have read on Cessationism, the more I have found that they can't even agree on what they believe. Scriptural proof is lacking for Cessationism view point. I have read the various study notes in Zondervan Study Bible, ESV Study Bible, read several different commentaries, three different Bible dictionaries, and I don't know how many different websites. I have also ordered books, on the topic (which they haven't arrived yet). So far, I see nothing making Cessationism the correct interpretation, except for the fact that you want to try to limit God. Are people still being healed today? Yes! The hardest part for me is to remembering the last part of 1 Peter 3:15 -gentleness and respect. At this I'm sure I have failed. As we are all guilty of, some time our passions for defending the Word overwhelms the last part of the scripture. I will continue to read and research and most importantly pray about the issue, but for now I will continue to believe and live in a life that is Spirit filled and active in Christ. Brad |
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74 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 210987 | ||
Doc, I agree, scripture is complete and all any Christian needs. My question is what makes your interpation correct for 1 Cor 13:8-10? You take the perfect to mean the canon of the NT, were I take it as the Second Coming of Christ. So are you saying because I believe and seek after the gifts of the Holy Spirit I believe in mysticism and not the Word of God? 1Co 12:4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; 1Co 12:5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; 1Co 12:6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone. 1Co 12:7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. 1Co 12:8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, 1Co 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, 1Co 12:10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 1Co 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills. 1Co 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it. 1Co 12:28 And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues. 1Co 12:29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 1Co 12:30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 1Co 12:31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way. 1Co 14:1 Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. 1Co 14:2 For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. 1Co 14:3 On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. 1Co 14:4 The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. 1Co 14:5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up. Brad PS-I think you have my e-mail Doc, if you would like to continue this discussion offline, I would be more than happy to via e-mail. You are more experienced in this forum than I and I will yield to your experience on the forum if this topic should be moved to a more personal discussion via e-mail. |
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75 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 210983 | ||
Doc, I don't believe that Continuationism is anti-sola scripture. (If I'm understanding the definition of it is correct, remember, I'm just a common man, I haven't had years of schooling (thank the Lord for spell check).) I do believe that the gifts are still very active and available to all Christians. And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day. And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:14-21 I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this point. Thank you for showing me the other view point. Brad |
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76 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 210980 | ||
Hey Doc, I’m not sure what words, I was trying to put into your mouth, but I was responding to your statements that you had made. “I think you are correct, when anything is being presented as a message from God, it has to be put through the highest degree of discernment. If any part of the message doesn't line up with the Biblical truth, it should be disregarded.” Was in reference to your statement: “Might we, instead, encourage the sheep to take the safer, surer, saner path: encouraging folks to deeply love the Word of God and depend on it... to regard other things with a high degree of suspicion. That way, they will not neglect what God has certainly said (Deuteronomy 8:3), nor presume to put words in His mouth (Jeremiah 28:15).” My response to the quote from Whitfield was this: “On this point, I think I have to disagree with you. I do believe that the spiritual gifts in the Bible are alive and still should be in practice today. Many today have come to abuse these gifts and falsely use them.” “George Whitfield admonished John Wesley -- regarding the "Lakeland Outpouring Manifestitaions" -- that any such encouragement might "...take people from the written word, and make them depend on visions, convulsions, etc. more than on the promises and precepts of the gospel." Ouch.” My purpose wasn’t to put any words in your mouth and if it came across that away, I apologize. I was doing my best to express a different view than yours. My understanding is that Cessationist believes in the gifts, I wasn’t trying to say that they did not believe in the gifts. Yet to my limited understanding, Cessationist believe that the gifts ended (I believe that is based off 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 and the belief that the Bible is the fulfillment of this). I personnally believe, as I think the correct title for it is Continuationist as you pointed out, is the gifts are still active and alive today. Once again I apologize if I created any confusion or appeared to try to put words in your mouth, that wasn’t my goal. I have enough words on my own without trying to fill up someone else’s mouth. Brad |
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77 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | BMyers | 210973 | ||
Doc, On this point, I think I have to disagree with you. I do believe that the spiritual gifts in the Bible are alive and still should be in practice today. Many today have come to abuse these gifts and falsely use them. I think you are correct, when anything is being presented as a message from God, it has to be put through the highest degree of discernment. If any part of the message doesn't line up with the Biblical truth, it should be disregarded. Does God still speak to His people today? YES! Will He ever say anything contrary to His Word? NO! Our dependency should be on Christ, not the miracles or gifts, these are blessings. Brad |
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78 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Bible general Archive 4 | BMyers | 210904 | ||
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79 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Bible general Archive 4 | BMyers | 210900 | ||
Tim, What does 'WOF" stand for? I tried different combinations (Waiting On Food, Watching Our Floor, Wishing On Fish) but I couldn't come up with what I thought was the right answer for 'WOF' Just curious to the meaning. Thanks, Brad |
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80 | Understanding of Numbers 12:1 | Ex 4:25 | BMyers | 210861 | ||
Thanks for the info. Brad |
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