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461 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75444 | ||
Tim, This is the NASB web-site. What version are you using because the NASB doesn't say that? The NASB says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." and you know it, but you must not like that translation. AGAIN, IT IS NOT 'VERY CLEAR.' So you see Jesus' death as providing two separate atonements: the first is provided to all and the second--the only one that can make them right--is received only when they believe and obey the Gospel? If you believe this, how do you support it. I am STRUCK by the lack of scriptural evidence to support this statement: "All are born sinners, but Christ atoned for all sin. Therefore, infants, who have not had a chance to reject God's grace are covered by His atonement. " Good day. |
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462 | disciplerami when did you Bcome a sinner | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75378 | ||
I became a sinner when I sinned. What version are you reading from because mine does say that. Let's compare what you've said with Scripture: The Bible says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." Search56 says, "I was a sinner before birth." Hmmm...not the same thing. Good day. |
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463 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75377 | ||
ORTHODOXY - whose orthodoxy are you defending? The orthodoxy of Catholicism is not the orthodoxy of the Lutheran church which is not the orthodoxy of.... That's my problem. Infant baptism, for example, has been part of orthodox religion for a long time. Just one problem, it's not in the Bible. Here is what is orhodox. God is righteous and will judge men on the basis of their sin. God is fair and does not condemn them to hell by stamping Adam's sin upon them. Man has free will to choose which road. |
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464 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75374 | ||
This seems rather inconsistent to me. Why would we get the punishment of physical death for Adam's sin, but not the spiritual death? If Adam was spiritually dead, how could he pass on to his progeny spiritual life? The spirit is from God. The child inherits the physical traits from the parents, but the spirit is from God. It is not tarnished with the parents' sins. That's what I believe. I could never teach someone that people are damned to hell because they were born in a depraved, sinful state and God didn't give them the gift of faith so as to repent and be saved. This horrible doctrine, which is prevalent on this thread, makes Adam and God solely responsible for the damnation of those people who remain on the broad road that leads to destruction. Those who hold this doctrine can't turn around and say, 'no, you misunderstand, God won't hold the sinner responsible for Adam's sin, only for his own.' That explanation is bologna. The sinner, according to Calvin, can't help but sin because of his parentage and because God did see fit to 'elect' him for salvation. God is not unrighteous, but He would be if He would tell such a person, 'off to hell you go.' If man is born in a depraved state, and if God righteously condemns men to hell for their sin, God has no choice but to make the Gospel available to all men by doing for them what you believe God only does to the elect. I hope this all makes sense. Good day. |
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465 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75372 | ||
John, You are reading the same verse I read but you spin the verse and do not accurately interpret it. "So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men." The question is HOW do the acts of Adam and Jesus result in condemnation or justification? I propose that the same way that Jesus' action results in justification, that Adam's results in condemnation. All men are not made right through the work of Jesus Christ unless they 'follow' Him. Jesus paved the way, the author and perfector or the faith, and it is each man's responsibility to take hold of the gift. The righteousness of Christ is not received without repentance and confession. Likewise, Adam's act is not automatically transferred to all men unless or until all men do what Adam did. You are IGNORING Romans 5:12, "And death spread to all men, because all sinned"!!! Now that is book, chapter, and verse. Paul tells how Adam's act leads to the condemnation of all. Good day. |
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466 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75371 | ||
QUITE CLEARLY? NOT. Ps 139:13 For You formed my inward parts [but allowed me to inherit Adam's sin]; You wove me in my mother's womb [and without any choice, You made me a sinner]. Ps 139:14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made [except for the part about be depraved and unholy from conception]; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well, Ps 139:16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me [and in the book of deeds you recorded the sins of my parents against me], When as yet there was not one of them Psalm 51 does not quite clearly teach that David was a sinner. If anything, it is talking about his mother or about the world of sin around him. But it does not say he was born with sin. You assume too much. Psalm 58 is often used by your type to prove the same thing, but it is obviously not a literal statement about when the unrighteous became liars. The doctrine you propose, that one man is born in a depraved state is a hideous doctrine that should finally be laid to rest. My God, my Creator, gives everyone an equal chance to salvation. The same nature He gave to Adam, He also gives to every other person. You don't see two kinds of death? Please! They did not physically die did they? No. But they did sin against God and sin brings forth death. The death was spiritual separation from God. And I did support the statement. At the end of Genesis 3, God then removed the first couple from the garden and the tree of life lest they eat of it and live forever. Go ahead and read it. I have given the support. Good day. |
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467 | disciplerami, Are we sinful by nature? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75315 | ||
I'm sorry, but that is not correct. Sin is not our nature BECAUSE OF ADAM. Sin is connected to free will. We have things we can do and things we can't do. When we do what we are commanded not to, then we sin like Adam. We don't need to inherit a 'sin nature' to sin. Just ask Adam about that. "Say Adam, how come it is that you sinned, from whom did you get that sin nature?" He would ask, what are you talking about. "I chose to sin and paid for it." Don't blame your choice to sin on Adam. Go look in the mirror. | ||||||
468 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75313 | ||
Scripture: Gen 3:22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"-- This verse shows that the physical death only came about by blocking man's access to the tree of life. The sin they committed brought about spiritual death, 'the law of sin and death.' "In the day you eat...you shall die." The physical death, therefore, is inherited. The spiritual death only passes to the next generation when the next generation sins. "But why do all men sin?" Answer this by answering why did Adam and Eve sin. And you will have your answer "why all sin?" |
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469 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75291 | ||
Hence the fatalism of Calvinism. If this interpretation were true, there would be no such thing as a human demonstation of agape love, faith, hope. We would be mere puppets of God, manipulated to appear loving, faithful, hopeful. And the Gospel would not be powerful, it would be powerless words. YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT YOU ARE MADE TO SIN, AND YOU ARE MADE TO LOVE GOD? MAN, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THAT OUR GOD WOULD BE PLEASED WITH SUCH A THING. I love my Creator and His Son and the Holy Spirit because they first loved me. It is the love of Christ, demonstrated at Calvary, that controls me. He doesn't MAKE me do it, I choose to. Good day. |
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470 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75290 | ||
Greetings, Sin brings spiritual death. The curse that followed Adam's sin and death, brought about physical death. Physical death is felt by all because of Adam's sin. But only when we sin like Adam, does spiritual death spread to us. Adam had a nature that could sin when God created everything and said, it is very good. We have the same nature and choose to sin. We are good, until we know right and wrong and choose to disobey. Spiritual death then spreads to us. Sin means to transgress God's law. There is the sin of omission and commission (Col 4:25; James 4:17). Sin is not something you are born with, it is what you do-or don't do- against the law of God. When we know right and wrong, as Adam did, and do the wrong, then we die spiritually. Good day. |
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471 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75218 | ||
I wish we didn't see things so different. You've probably heard of Hal Lindsey, author of the best seller Late Great Planet Earth. Lindsey predicted many things that never came to pass and should be discredited today as a false teacher. But alas, he still gets plenty of attention. Let me share with you something he wrote recently that illustrates how confused he is about the most elemental and essential things of Jesus Christ. He writes, "Why is the virgin birth of Christ so important? Since the sin of the human race is passed down through the father, Jesus had to be born without a human father. Otherwise He would have been born with the same curse of sin upon him as the rest of mankind. Thus He would not have qualified to bear the penalty of sin for us. He had to have a human mother to have a true human nature, but as the Scripture clearly states, God Himself was the father of His human nature. ("Born of a Virgin", World Net Daily, Accessed: Feb. 14, 2003) Lindsey answers a very good question about why the virgin birth by giving a completely wrong reason for the necessity of it. He says Jesus had to be born of a virgin because if he was Joseph's biological son, Jesus would have been born depraved: he would have been born with Adam's sin. Without any explanation, he makes the confident assertion that a "sin nature" is passed on, and only through the father. This doctrine is so off the wall, so ridiculous, that it hardly deserves a response. But this doctrine is also commonly taught. This doctrine of paternal heredity of original sin helps Lindsey keep Jesus without sin. This doctrine is completely unnecessary when you understand that SIN IS NOT PASSED DOWN. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him" (Ezekiel 18:20) Paul tells us why 'death spreads to all men." Most people only quote part of Romans 5:12, and leave of the last words which say "BECAUSE ALL SINNED." Death did not spread to all men by virtue of passed down sin through the father, but death spread to all men because all men do what Adam did: they disobey God. Jesus was not born of God--instead of Joseph--to prevent His being born with sin. Jesus was born of God because God wanted to come and dwell as a man and experience everything that man experiences, 'yet without sin'' (see Philippians 2:5ff). Lindsey digs himself into deeper error by saying, "He had to have a human mother to have a true human nature." What exactly does that mean? Does he really believe that only the female has a "true human nature" and men don't! Let me illustrate how ridiculous this doctrine is. Suppose a man and woman have a son and daughter. According to Lindsey, the sin nature and 'curse of sin' would be transferred not through the mother, but through the father. Would Lindsey say that the sin nature is passed on only to the son and not to the daughter? Does the son inherit the sin nature while the daughter retains a "true human nature?" If the doctrine of original sin were true, then why wouldn't Mary's father have "passed down" the sin nature to her? Catholics don't try getting away with the idea that women have a purer nature than men, instead they deal with the so-called ''original sin'' by making Mary's birth a miraculous event whereby she was spared from receiving the "sin nature." Both doctrines are wrong but necessary if you believe in "original sin." Lindsey: "Since the sin of the human race is passed down through the father, Jesus had to be born without a father." Here is an example of one error begetting another error. The first error being his teaching that "sin is passed down." The second error being his explanation that the sin nature is passed down through the biological father. The third error being his explanation of why it was fine for Jesus to be born of a woman because the woman has a "true human nature." Those who hold this doctrine believe that children are lost in sin. Many denominations have children ministries so they can "save" those little kids before they die and go to hell for Adam's sin. Still others accept the doctrine of original sin and give infants a modified "baptism" for the forgiveness of sins (Catholicism, Lutheranism). Error begets error. Jesus was born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14) because God wanted His Son to be human, flesh. Jesus was "the only begotten of God"-and not Joseph's biological son-- because He was part of the eternal Godhead. If both parents of Jesus were human, then Jesus would not be anything other than human. There is no such thing as an inherited sin nature that is PASSED DOWN through the Father, contrary to what Hal Lindsey says. - disciplerami |
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472 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75216 | ||
Thanks for replying but I disagree. The 'visiting' of sin upon the children is not referring to the stain of sin, but the natural fallout of one's mistakes upon those around him. The sins of a drunkard father will be visited upon the children. The sins of Israel were visited upon the sons who had to endure 70 years of captivity. The so-called sin nature that is passed on isn't just for three or four generations, it is in perpetuity. Exodus 34:7 isn't making the case. The Romans 5:12 shows how it is we all are 'made sinners', by following the footsteps of Adam. We are also all 'made righteous' not by fiat through Jesus' death on the cross, but by our faith and repentance in Jesus Christ. The sin of Adam is only passed on when we sin like Adam. The righteousness of Christ is only passed on when we die like Christ (take up your cross, etc). Good day. |
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473 | Why should we believe a "secret rapture" | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 75189 | ||
I guess we can't agree on everything. You write: "The event starts with what we know as the rapture and continues up to the time that God sets up his kingdom here on earth." See, I can't go along with this. If I'm misunderstanding you, help straighten me out. But I understand you to be saying that Jesus is going to establish a kingdom here on earth at His second coming. Is that what you are saying? The way I see this all unfolding is quite different. When Jesus returns and rescues the church and judges the earth, He then turns over the kingdom to the Father (1 Corinthians 15). My understanding is that the fiery judgment will happen at his second coming, and this world will be toast. Good day. |
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474 | Why should we believe a "secret rapture" | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 75188 | ||
ahh, very good. Thanks. |
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475 | Why should we believe a "secret rapture" | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 75187 | ||
CDBJ, I don't think we are far off on this. Revelation is a little difficult. I have some specific ideas about the book: that it primarily relates to events of the first century and the judgment of God on Rome. I don't want to get into a debate about all of that. I am curious to know if you think that the repeated 7's (seals, trumpets, bowls, etc) are a sort of retelling of the same events, only with increased intensity? Good day. |
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476 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Not Specified | disciplerami | 75186 | ||
Is the 'sin nature' passed through the Father? | ||||||
477 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:12 | disciplerami | 75209 | ||
Is the 'sin nature' passed through the Father? | ||||||
478 | Is sin inherited from father and mother? | Rom 5:19 | disciplerami | 75207 | ||
Is the 'sin nature' passed through the Father? | ||||||
479 | Why should we believe a "secret rapture" | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 75066 | ||
John, I don't believe the so-called 'rapture' of the faithful, as presented in our modern day, is a biblical idea. I certainly believe in the second coming of Christ, but on that day three things will happen in succession. First, the dead in Christ shall rise. Second, "We who are alive and remaining" shall rise to meet the Lord in the air. Third, the judgment of the unrighteous will occur. All of these things will occur on that day. I doubt that anyone else on this forum believes as I do, but there you have it. By the way, a prooftext for the rapture that I've heard used, is the one where Jesus says, 'two will be in the field, one will be taken away and one left.' (my paraphrase). Good day. |
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480 | When is abortion right? | Ex 21:23 | disciplerami | 74915 | ||
Well, certainly you are correct in pointing out that we are all guilty and the surefire way of being forgiven is to repent. Murderers can repent and be forgiven. So please don't take me wrong. Polarbeardog 2 really opened a can of worms when asking 'when is abortion right.' Talk about a leading question! But we don't have to go there. because it is simple enough to say that its never right. Take care. | ||||||
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