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41 | Are we presenting the gospel scripturaly | John 1:12 | Ocelot | 172407 | ||
Hi Doc, This may very well not be my place to speak. But I would point out that you left the key part of what Mark said, out of your quote. He said “Let us not fault those who, AFTER they have preached the gospel, invite the repentant to pray, and fault what their choice of words may be” Just thought I’d point that out. In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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42 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173868 | ||
Hi Doc. Thanks for this excellent quote. So according to Don Fortner, “There is a people scattered throughout the ages and realms of this world who are loved of God, a people whom God is determined to save.” And how, according to the scripture quoted, does God define those “people scattered throughout the ages… whom God is determined to save.”? “The WORLD” John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” Praise God! Ocelot |
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43 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173899 | ||
John, Your implication that Mark believes that man can save himself is (at least from what I know of Mark from his posts) a gross fabrication. If you were being swept downstream in a rushing river towards a waterfall, and someone tossed you a rope, after you were pulled to safety, would you claim to have saved yourself by grabbing the rope? Of course not! And you’re right about the Bible not recording anyone refusing to look at the brazen serpent. It was so easy to do. And yet, so is looking to Jesus. The analogy is PERFECT. Ocelot |
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44 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173902 | ||
Revelation 3:20 ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and OPENS THE DOOR, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.’ Isaiah 45:22 “Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.” Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, |
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45 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173926 | ||
Dear John, What if no one threw him the rope? Ocelot |
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46 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173928 | ||
Dear John, I do not think you vile. And I am sorry for using such strong words. Ocelot |
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47 | Jesus' Instruction to Nicodemus | John 3:14 | Ocelot | 173965 | ||
Dear John, I agree that the analogy is quite poor. In fact, no analogy could come close to the Real Thing in any way shape or form. No fable could come remotely close to illustrating the degradation of sin or the incredible wonder of grace. In any case, perhaps now is a good time for me to drop the subject. I hope there are no hard feelings between us. In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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48 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166640 | ||
Jesus said "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32 If you’re a sinner, guess what, you’re not alone. Jesus didn’t come down to this earth to die on the cross for “good” people, but for sinners. Does that mean that we go on sinning? No. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. David was referred to as “a man after God’s own heart.” Yet he committed adultery and topped it off with murder. I’m not justifying those things, but I’m saying that God can forgive those sins. And He WILL, if you CONFESS them. God Loves Sinners. If He didn’t we ALL be in trouble. Ocelot |
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49 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166645 | ||
Sam, do you believe that if you remember to confess a sin, but don’t, that you will go to hell? | ||||||
50 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166920 | ||
Hello, Sam. BradK and I have differing views on this issue. And so as not to try and convert you, I’ll just say that according to BradK, (and probably most of the people on this forum) “I was wrong.” Ocelot |
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51 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 166964 | ||
Hi Sam. I’d be glad to answer your questions. I believe as you do that the Bible is the final authority on all things. This is going to be a long response, as I hope to cover most everything that I believe on the topic. First of all, I believe that sin separates us from God. “Behold, the LORD'S hand is not so short That it cannot save; Nor is His ear so dull that it cannot hear. But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God” Isaiah 59:1, 2 I believe that everyone is not only born with a sinful nature, but that we have all sinned, and because of that sinful heritage which Adam left us with, we are condemned to die. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:23 But I believe that God did not leave us in that state of hopelessness, but rather, out of His great love for each and every one of us, He sent His son to die on the cross that “Whosoever believes in Him might not perish but have everlasting life.” John 3:16. I believe that salvation is a free gift, and one that we can by no means earn through any amount of works. I believe that we accept the grace that God gives us through faith. I believe that faith is an act of will. Here’s where my beliefs on this subject differ from most of the others on this forum. I do not believe that once you’re saved, you’re always saved. James 5:19, 20 “My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.” See also Gal. 5:4; Heb. 6:4-6; 1 Cor. 15: 1, 2; 2 Pet. 2:20-22; 1 Cor. 9:27; Rev. 3:5; Heb. 3:12, 13 I do not believe that 1 John 1:9 is just for the lost. When Christ told His disciples how to pray, He prayed this line “And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.” Matthew 6:12. Asking for forgiveness is something that was not only modeled by Christ, I believe it was commanded. Now I do not think that keeping Gods commands will save us, not by any stretch of the imagination. It is a gift from God. But I believe that we separate ourselves from His grace when we willingly sin. That’s where 1 John 1:9 comes in. As for all the finality mentioned by BradK in those verses, I don’t have a problem with them at all. I believe that Christ DID make the FINAL sacrifice. He paid it ALL. We pay NOTHING. All we do is accept the grace that God offers to us free of charge. Romans 6:1, 2 “What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?” Okay, so this wasn’t quite as exhaustive as I would have liked. I ran out of time. I try and post on this site while I’m at work during my lunch brake and other brakes. And I don’t have internet at home. So this will have to do for now. If you need any more info on what I believe in this matter, then just let me know. With Christian love, Ocelot P.S. I realize this is going to get some folks upset. I would like to point out that Sam asked me what I believed. So I am answering him. |
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52 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167002 | ||
Hi Sam. Here’s my understanding of the issue. First of all I believe that Christ DID die for ALL sins. Does that mean that everyone will be saved? No, only the ones who accept His forgiveness. So is it possible for Christ to die for ALL sins and yet NOT all sins to be forgiven. Obviously it is. A person may then quote a verse like 2 Corinthians 5:17, that says “Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.” Once again we run into a difference of beliefs as far as once saved always saved goes. So I’ll just move on. Secondly you asked, “Is a sinless life here on earth, while living in this human body, obtainable?” This is another area where I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with me. I believe that it is, but not by any human power. I believe that when we “…confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” 1 John 1:9. I believe that when we confess our sins and accept Christ’s grace, we are sinless before God. I believe that the Bible calls us MANY times to holiness and perfection. But we certainly can’t do it of our own power or ability. 2 Corinthians 7:1 “Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” I’m not quite sure what you asked on your last question, but I’ll do my best to respond. I believe that the Holy Spirit will convict us of sin that we need to confess. John 16:8 "And He[The Holy Spirit], when He comes, will convict the world concerning sin…” So that’s what I believe on the subject. As you pointed out, I’m not the only one who believes this way. But then again, I’m probably not in the majority either. I hope that answers your questions. If you have any others, feel free to ask. In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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53 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167004 | ||
The first definition you gave is basically what I believe. That we “can remain sinless for a period of time, which might end when we then sin again”. Sorry, I didn’t make that clear. | ||||||
54 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167007 | ||
Hi Mark. I’m not going to say that my belief is more attractive than yours. I’m not going to get into a debate with you. I’ve stated what I believe and why at the request of Sam here. I actually tried to avoid it for fear of an argument. I’m not trying to “lead him astray”. I will add however that I DO believe that I could lose my salvation. I’m not some pompous hypocrite. With Christian Love, Ocelot. P.S. Mark, it is always a pleasure to converse with you, even when we don’t agree. You always seem to display a true Christian character of love. That is not always the case with some posters, I’m afraid myself included. |
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55 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167014 | ||
Thanks for the info, Doc. Ocelot |
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56 | child made during adultry | John 3:16 | Ocelot | 167036 | ||
Don’t worry about it Sam. There’s no need to apologize. Just about everything I say on this forum attracts controversy plenty, without your help :-) In Christian Love, Ocelot |
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57 | Grace, Graciously Offered | John 11:43 | Ocelot | 173720 | ||
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58 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166563 | ||
I agree with Doc. I would also add that Christ’s choosing is not limited to those who are saved. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” And again 2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for ANY to perish but for ALL to come to repentance.” Christ chooses all, but not all choose Christ. Ocelot |
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59 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166569 | ||
Dear Doc, I wasn’t trying to do an in-depth word study, but to simply approach the question from a different angle. I wasn’t sure if Huron was asking if John 15:16 meant that God “predestined” some to salvation while He “predestined” others to destruction. I just figured I’d cover that base. Ocelot |
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60 | Does Jn 15:16 "choosing" apply to us? | John 15:16 | Ocelot | 166577 | ||
So answer me this, kalos. Do you believe that God has CHOSEN some individuals to burn in the lake of fire? “Sorry Bob, (my apologies to anybody named Bob) but you’re predestined to burn in the lake of fire.” “But I want to be saved!” “Too bad, God said no.” If you believe this, aren’t you the lucky one. I do not believe that God has chosen to murder anybody. I believe that salvation is open to ALL people. And THAT’S the issue I was addressing. If you disagree with me, then you serve a pretty mean and angry god. If you agree with me, then what on earth are we arguing about? I was not talking about the “elect”. I realize that the verse was. I was simply approaching that verse from another angle. Ocelot |
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